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Ernst Wilhelm
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no, any card that has rahu is much less a part of our life and takes longer to get as rahu is a delaying factor, saturn is also a delaying factor, so its a double wammy and the person gets more of the saturn card as they get older. 

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@ernst  To make sure I understood the concept properly -

The Saturn card is limitations. So we use that card until it becomes a crutch and limits us. Then it is time to let the ego die and allow the Saturn card to fall away and move into Rahu.

But when Rahu is present in the Saturn card, the person does not know how to use the card properly. So they haven’t even been able to use it to it’s full potential. Once the internal shift happens, they are better able to use that card and also get the Rahu card in the process - both things at once.

Have I got this right?

Either way, it is the death of the ego that helps move us forward into the Rahu card. 

So we can still use the Saturn card but not in a limiting way, is that correct?

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To keep it simple, the card becomes badly delayed as saturn and rahu are both delaying factors. in early life, attempts at the card will be met with failures, but success, even huge success, is possible after the delays end. but its a card that has to be done, we have to do rahu. 

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by, card that must be done, i mean a person has to go there and do it, they dont have to have success with it. 

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@ernst  Got it. Thanks. Seems futile while going through it, but I guess the wall has to break some day. Just got to keep hammering.

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Posted by: @ernst

Saturn card is what we have to let go off, which stops being a part of our life.

Does this apply to the Saturn card in the yearly spread too? 

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yes. very much so. its what we loose, or what ends. 

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@ernst

Even when there is an Ace in the card? 

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