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Ernst Wilhelm
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@leela

These bad habits of the avasthas were started by a child with undeveloped cognitive powers, inability to walk or even take care of themselves in the least ways. Once we understand the habit, we can change it because we can walk, we do have our brains developed, we are able and so can exert our will, which we could not do as a child or infant.  

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Hi Ernst,

For Sun Rahu conjunction,  is Sun's inner voice more clear to person at rahu maturation or at 50 years when natural age of sun comes or its a struggle throughout the life?

Thank you 

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Once we understand the habit, we can change it because we can walk, we do have our brains developed, we are able and so can exert our will, which we could not do as a child or infant.  

I guess my question is more in terms of the direction in which will is applied.  

Because- it isn't just a question of intellectually analysing the habits, right? 

For example, I did analyse and get over some things and exerted my will toward what I loved around 9 years ago (or thought I loved, at any rate). However as I realised by doing, deep habits don't go away that easily. I could not do the thing I wanted and loved with the abandon and freedom with which I wanted to. (too many fears, working toward some ideal vision of self, sensitivities, doubts, insecurities..). Also, perhaps, unrealistic ambitions. I overcame it in many moments, but not consistently enough, and not as speedily as I wanted to. Even though I "talked" myself out of habits and moved forward, the old habits were still there, as a visceral experience in many moments. 

Now.. as I'm reflecting obsessively, it has me wondering. Is it that I could not do it with abandon, because it was not MY kingdom to begin with, though I thought it was- I.e. I was exerting my will in the "wrong" thing? Or could I not do it well, because I did the right thing but with bad habits? I know I am repeating myself in an endless loop. Cannot seem to let this question go. 

But it appears such a question cannot be answered by astrology. Can it? Or not? 

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@leela  I have been through the loop recently, and my advice would be to keep at it. There are layers that are getting peeled away and some of them will be very uncomfortable. Question everything and everyone, especially you and your views and perspectives. Much knowledge will be found there.

I am curious as to your age. My spread has most of your cards. It looks like you have embarked on self-enquiry, which is your Rahu card, after following much of your inspiration through your Saturn card. Astrology is a tool for self-enquiry, same as psychology, or meditation, or cards. The question to ask would be, “What do you really want to see?”

By analysing the habits, we become aware of them. Becoming aware is a process. Each layer is hidden under another. By becoming aware, we start to notice how we use our habits in our daily life. Then we can find ways of changing them.

Once a habit is changed, another one is revealed. We start the process again. But then the one that we have recently changed pops its head back up to see if it has really been taken care of, or if more work needs to be done on that.

But analysing is not enough, because to deal with situations we have had to bury our feelings and emotions. Those feelings and emotions need to be acknowledged, as they too are a part of us.

The abandon and freedom with which we want to use our energy needs the right target. I haven’t found the right thing to let my whole being open up to yet. As they say, “What you are seeking is seeking you”. So I keep on plodding, unraveling the knots within me, knowing that when the time is right, the right thing will come along that will allow me to be completely myself and I can immerse myself completely in it.

I have moved a lot, both in career and in countries. I have nothing materialistic to show for it, but the development within has been beyond my wildest imagination. It hasn’t been easy, but there is no storm that will break me down now. I think that is much more valuable than anything I could have had in a concrete way.

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@leela  Read your post yesterday. My contact is manishahunt at hotmail dot com if you ever feel like getting in touch.

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For what I understood there’s no Sun that is bad- but may have a tougher time changing it’s habits and will require extra effort. The kingdom is always yours and it’s always there- you just have to remove the junk that is not letting it shine and be willing to take care of it, stop doing everything else until you start minding your own business 

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It depends on the avastha of the sun. but rahu does not by itself hide the inner voice, just the innner voice, if they are listening to it, will take them to places that were beyond what they were able to conceive. 

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@ernst

Okay, thank you Ernst 

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How we can possibly see a bad habbit of the Sun ? Lets say Sun is in Libra, Sun will be trying to get inspiration from Libras nature.. obviously it wont work as its in bad avastha.Then how we can direct our inner voice correct way ?

 

Thanks and regards

Deepak

 

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@deepakmurali In my personal experience, it helps if the Sun has some aspect from friendly planets too. In my case, my Libra Sun is delighted by my Moon, in addition to the Venus starvation so I have a guiding star in that way. 

Also, Neechabanga Raj yogas can help too. Luckily, I have two planets which help my gimpy Sun 😝

Neechabhanga Raja Yogas are Yogas that involve a debilitated planet in such a way as to make
another planet become capable of producing success. These do not help the debilitated planet in
anyway, they simply indicate how the pain and difficulty caused by the debilitated planet serves as
motivation to create success through a productive planet. The productive planet is then more
productive because the memory of difficulty serves to make the individual really want to make
something good happen.

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@kam Welcome to the debilitated Sun with Neechabanga yogas and delights from a few friends Club:) Definitely a head spinner so my motto is: "at the end of the day, it's not that bad". Also, I like to see where the Sun is helping other planets. In my case, for example, Sun delights Mars and Jupiter so it's good way to redirect the energy of the Sun in a healthy way. Am sure we'll learn a lot more about that in the Master course!

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@mona That's great too 🙂 Unfortunately, my Sun is with Ketu so he only provides shame, starvation, and agitation to my poor Venus and Moon. Which is extremely rude if you ask me, but I gotta work with what I've got haha 🙈

Am also looking forward to Ernst' insights during the course!

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@kam oh no! 🤣 Well, my Sun is combusting Mars and Venus, so it adds to the head scratching and I go "can 2 combust planets neechabanga?" before reminding myself I should not make a soup of everything. All this happening in my 2nd house which I honestly can't complain much about 🙄 Thank goodness, humor goes a long way.

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@mona It all goes down in the 2nd and 9th houses for me.

A debilitated Graha is in Sushupti Avastha, or a sleeping/unconscious condition and so it has no ability to take care of those things it is a Karaka, for those Bhavas it rules, or for the Grahas that it rules.

I wonder if a Sushupti Avasta Sun can still combust things? If so, there goes another blow to my Mars 🤣 Although, it's out of sign so I'm not sure if the combustion is really that strong anyways. 

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I believe the sun's rays will not be able to reach the earth if it is still combust. But, I have seen a chart where Sun is in Libra with Ma, Mo, Ju, all three combust! who is working on his own (not a corporation) and the person is moving towards more and more happiness. with age. 

PS:  I guess I just showed some Mudita to some people 😉 

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@scoobydoo that sounds like my dad's chart. Except he's got Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, and Sun all in Libra. All combust. He's a pretty jovial person, for the most part.

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@kam I know people with this combo seek advise from advisors who give hopes in material world, most turn out to be fake ones. Not sure neecha bhanga would help in avasthas as it does not help the planets avasthas directly.

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@deepakmurali

I'm not sure advisors can be of much help to me, as Amit stated above about Venus and counsellors.

I'm starting to think I'm meant to be on my own during this go-round. How fitting for my Jack of Spades Sun card.

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@deepakmurali

Sun in Libra means its misguided by venus (counsellor), so it has to stop acting on that guidance and rely on its own guts.

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@amit Ha, the not relying on own guts sounds like me, also because I have Rahu in Sagittarius. Thanks for putting it so clearly.

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@mona

Thanks to Ernst

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yes it does as mars is still hidden by the sun. 

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@ernst Oh joy 🤣

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Ernst Wilhelm
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in answer to what direction the will should be applied, its to in the direction that the inner voice says yes to. 

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Amit Bhat
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@ernst

Hi Ernst 

Won't combust planet be forced to exert themselves only to what sun wants and if its a good avastha sun, then combust planets not a problem really?

Thank you 

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