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Veronica
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Is it true that a planet in a house that it rules  may hurt that house ? Let’s say Jupiter in 5th (children), Sun in 9th (father), Moon in 4th (mother), etc

I’m guessing  it depends on dignity?

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Ernst Wilhelm
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THats a common principle floating around, but I never found it to work great. I think the condition of the planet is what is most important.

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Leela
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--Posted by: @ernst

The houses are what we have, the THINGS, the planets are our consciousness,

Hi Ernst- 
So if I elaborate on this line, to clarify my understanding: 

The difficulties/pain that are coming in from the avasthas/habits are more because of our mind- the consciousness with which we experience and create. Thus, they can be improved by understanding them and changing our habits. But difficulties coming from the house are concrete and can't be solved by merely understanding or changing our psychological habits. Yes?

Yet, I have a difficulty in separating Things vs Psychological habits, an issue that seems more pronounced in something like 4th house (and maybe all watery houses). 
For example, on one level 4th house is mother, land, house, ancestors etc, all of which are THINGS, we can't really change these things. 
But it also relates to longings and yearnings we never show, our hidden side, our deep down sense of happiness (or lack of it), the foundation and capacity to experience life as created by the mother, our addictions etc.. But all these latter belong to the psychological.
So, are these also habits that can be changed or would that be an exercise in futility? Are difficulties coming from the house unlikely to change and you just kind of have to accept them, including the psychological effects?
 
(Of course I know that things don't work in utter isolation and an overall improvement in habits will bring an overall change to everything)

 

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Planets in bad lajjitaadi avasthas make it impossible to be happy with the things of the houses that they impact even when the things of the houses are great. LIkewise, houses that are showing a lack in the concrete reality, are not a source of unhappiness when the avashtas are good. 

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i guess we can be poor or sick or grew up in bad situation and still be happy with life if we have planets in good lajjittadi avashtas which represents our consciousness. Or we can be wealthy with all the money in the world yet still be very unhappy because we have bad lajjitaadi avashtas.  The concrete things of the houses and our consciousness of how we experience those concrete things are mutually exclusive. The source of our happiness or unhappiness is our consciousness, our habits. That is how i understand Ernst's comments which makes a lot of sense to me

 

tuyet

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