Solving bad lajjitadi avasthas
If a planet has enough delight on it, then the issue of solving bad lajjitadi avastha does not arise, right? Because the solution to the starvation is already built in to the chart, so the solving is already part of the person's fate, right?
What if the planet has little or no delight? Then the issue of solving the bad lajjitadi avastha arises and it is left to our free-will, right?
I would like to refer to the "low watery place; portable dishwasher" example you mentioned in the Mercury delighting Saturn class, it was quite hilarious.
Even though you don't have Mercury delighting your Saturn in your chart, you understood how it works, so I would assume if the same thing happened all over again, you would remove the portable dishwasher to look beneath it, instead of letting your Mars look at the same place again and again. So you have solved the "Mars starving Saturn" avastha with your free-will right?
Now, the key to solving "Mars starving Saturn" seems to be understanding how
- Mars starves Saturn
- Mercury/Venus delights Saturn
Can an arbitrary person develop this understanding by hanging around a role model with
- Proud Saturn or
- Mercury/Venus delighting Saturn by full 60 points
and watching them in action?
My kids (I have six year old twins) have "Mars starving Saturn" (Rahu/Saturn in Scorpio) with very little delight on Saturn. I was wondering how they can solve this bad lajjitadi avastha, if they show no interest in learning astrology?
Of course, they can do meditation/follow spiritual path, but I want to understand how to use astrology to develop free-will.
Yes, if there is a lot of delight a person will work past it on their own, if not, they need help such as can be offered by astrology or proper counseling, possibly with astrology. A good counselor should be able to get to the issue, just with astrology we can see it right away. I will be starting a course at the beginning of next year covering this use of lajjitaadi avashtas in a way that will be counseling centered.
I think it's important to consider the maturation and natural age of the planets - in my opinion, it's good to expose children to spiritual teachings, however, it's is a process that we can not rush, we can teach values, respect for others and try to make our children learn about kindness, fairness and keep them away from religions that could make them feel guilty if they don't act in a certain way, therefore, limiting their free will. Probably the way we can help our children is by understanding instead of reacting when their "bad avasthas " show up in their behavior.... I would love to learn how to use astrology to help and understand my son and what can I do as a mom
I came to the conclusion that you can use free-will to improve your weaknesses by using the stronger planets in your chart to help you
Can you please give an example to walk us through how this can be done?
Free-will is probably the trickiest concept I have come across, so an example would definitely help!
I agree with Veronica and Tuyet, and Amit has brought up some very important questions.
Why is it that in a kindergarten class of 20 kids, each of the kids takes in something different from a story? Or why, when we read a book or watch a movie, we all take away something different from the same book or movie?
Children learn by observing. They observe people around them and imitate their behaviours. But again, what do they take in? A lot, but most of it on the Rahu-Ketu axis, depending on the Dasas that are running, the Avasthas coming into play, the planets that are debilitated, and the age when they are exposed to those behaviours which coincide with the maturation and natural ages of the planets.
’Doing’ happens. It is the inspiration of the Sun that gets done. But if the Moon gets in the way, and gets emotions attached to the act of ‘doing’, wants to be validated or praised, wants something in return (Venus), then the pure flow of energy gets distorted, and Mars loses his focus and tries to fix that which cannot be fixed or does not want to be fixed. This leads to frustration setting in and negative feelings to take hold. But as kids, unless we have been made aware of this, we are not aware of it. And we embark on our life path with those negative feelings set into our consciousness.
It is Mars who feels the need to have Free Will. Without willpower, he feels like he has nothing to do. But needing Free Will also denotes the perception of separation. That there is something that is lacking and needs to be fixed.
The only thing that Mars has any power over is himself. He is the general, but the only army he can control is his own. He feels the need to do something, but the only thing he can do is focus on removing the obstacles within and resolve the Lajjittaadi Avasthas, that stops the Sun from shining. If he loses focus and tries to control outside forces, he has lost the battle.
I have found that there are two types of observation states - one where we watch what is happening in a detached state. But the detached state has been reached because of trauma caused beforehand that we have been unable to figure out how to resolve within ourselves. This observation state is the restraining state.
The restraining state is great to figure out the best logical way to deal with situations, and to restrain ourselves from being too emotional and explosive. This is Mars’s ‘won’t’ power coming into play. But we also need to utilise Mars’s ‘will’ power, which can be used to figure out what is causing the emotional state to fluctuate, which then means resolving our weak Avasthas. Tuyet has explained very nicely how our own life can be dissected and looked at to resolve the weaker Avasthas, and I have followed the same path.
So we have detached to observe and figure things out that happen within, then we attach again to all our faculties to take the right action, which is removing the negative feelings that exist within us. We are still observing, but we are also involved in the removing of any obstacles on-the-go as needed that hinders the ‘doing’. The ‘doing’ now is the free flow of the Sun’s inspiration, and Mars understands his place in the hierarchy.
The more I have been able to do this in my life, the less I find myself being at the mercy of my emotions, and the less I find the need to restrain myself, and the inspiration of the Sun unhindered by the Moon finds a clearer channel to flow. As Tuyet said, it is a lifelong process, and I am sure I will come up against something else that will need to be resolved.
I have three Starved planets this year with no delight at all for them. I have two planets that are in a mixed state, and two planets that are in strong Avasthas. I can use my Starved planets and feel woeful for not being able to get what I want, use my Free Will to set Mars into motion to fight to get what I don’t have, and set things into motion (Fate) to bring nothing but more misery upon myself, and end up getting drained of energy.
On the other hand, I can use the Proud planets to see what I already have, be ok with it, have peace through it, and allow Mars to rest for a bit or just allow him to put up a fight to keep what I already have. Next year things will change and perhaps Mars will get a chance to go for what the Sun desires to have.
This, for me, is happening on the Rahu-Ketu axis. I am assuming that the same happens for everyone else, but would like to know what others think.