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Dwadasamsha, D-12 - a second chance for bad planets?

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While listening to a video on youtube with Rok Koritnik about the Vargas, he says that if a planet is bad in the Rasi chart, being in it´s own sign in the D-12 saves it.

("If a planet is in a bad condition, but it´s in it´s own Dwadasamsha, it´s as good as it would be in it´s good sign.")

He doesn´t mention where the idea comes from; my Sun is in Leo in the D-12 so I love it, but is it true?

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Rok is a very competent researcher in astrology. It's very likely it's something he has investigated and if so, I would trust him. 

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@ernst There is logic to it, if I understand it correctly.

Even if you don´t have a juggler´s chart, if you grew up in a circus family you will know how to throw a few balls into the air. If your parents were farmers, even though your mind and talents are in music or business, you know how to grow potatoes.

My kids don´t have any interest in astrology but can´t avoid knowing something about from just having been in the environment. One could say: That should be shown in the rasi chart. Family tendencies are often repeated there, as we all know. But D12 does what the vargas do - provides more detail.

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Great D12 means ancestral karmas coming to the rescue of the person. Probably it is like a spoiled brat of great parents who does weird things yet enjoys the care and protection from them or ancestral blessings. Like son of a big celebrity or politician escaping the laws after committing some crime!

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@amit What is "family tradition" if not "ancestral karma"? Parents are ancestors too, and our most influential ancestors. Well, at least in native American tradition; isn´t that so in Indian tradition?

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Unfortunately it works the other way round too, I suppose - sometimes your family drags you down.

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Rok has also researched early western astrology, where the only divisional chart they really used was the D12 or dodekatemoria. This might be one reason he emphasizes it.

Btw he has a good book about combining solar returns and sudarshana chakra, in his opinion the most reliable predictive method. It's called At the turning of years.

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@brightsun Wow, thank you! Yes, I saw him speak about his book, but now my interest grew further.

Yes, he says that the D12 was for the greek like D9 to the vedic, and personally I´m going to use it the same way. I have my AK Moon in the 4th, so you can imagine how much I base everything in my mind on family, family tradition and ancestry. I believe that lack of ancestry is one of the worst problems in modern world, one ot the reasons why we are so lost.

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