Hello @Ernst
You explained how card energy being carried by planets to different cards based on their position and cards foundation course you explained how to see the movement of energy just based on lower 6 cards of Rahu, ketu, ecliptic and 3 outer planets.
Now say for example Pluto card is 6♥️ but Pluto is in 7th card, so do you see Pluto energy flowing to 6th and 7th card equally for the ego purification purpose?
Thank you
My Pluto, 4C, is in my 4th card, 7D. With the Moon and the ascendant. A double wammy of Pluto with the Moon and the lagna. A fun one! 🙂 Life really wants me to grow...
Staffan
I think Pluto purification is like carving a stone into a beautiful statue by continuous hitting by the master sculptor which hurts badly but in the end result is great!
@amit I agree. 7 of Diamonds is a card with a natural understanding of that, of course. But it still hurts. Not complaining though, who don´t want to become a beautiful statue?
Staffan
The key with pluto is that "I" don't exist. There is no "me". As soon as this attitude kicks in, there is no pain! But I think this is hardest thing to do especially when moon and ascendant are involved with it. But if the attitude can be adjusted like it's divine working through me and I am nothing else but that then Pluto's job is done! So it will take more meditation to dissolve the I consciousness into divine consciousness at which point Pluto doesn't need to hit at anything. Also 7D is a death card, so letting go.
@amit I agree. Actually 5 of Clubs per se is all about that, I believe. Four of clubs on the Pluto card doesn´t allow you to ever believe that you are right! If 5 of Clubs doesn´t let go of his dogma, he´s going to suffer. But having breakdowns is a big part of the path. Five of Spades on the Jupiter position protects it and Ace of Spades on the Moon card helps it to start over again. If those cards are blocked, it must be really tough.
In my case I´m also helped, I believe, by a Lagna lord in descent Dignity (GF), a healty Moon and the Sani Shakra in the Heart, taking joy in suffering. That helps, I´m sure.
Staffan
PS. Also the Venus card is JH, a card that helps us to find joy and emotional recovery in relationships and worldly matters. The path and the Uranus are the red Kings, again an indication for preparedness for suffering. Yet again: 5 of Clubs is made for breakdowns and rebirth. Change, indeed.
@staffan I believe it's the breakdown time when there is an opportunity for greatest possible growth of soul's journey towards the divine consciouness if the person has acquired enough merit for this push to happen.
@amit I mean, for a 5 of Clubs there will always be breakdowns. Then it´s up to the individual to react to it. How that most probably is going to play out will and what the person´s biggest challenges are will be seen in the chart, of course. It might make you or it may break you. It really resonates with the meaning of the judgment card. "Time to make a judgment, time to choose a path." It may go any way, but it will not stay in the middle as it was from the beginning.
Staffan
Yes, that's absolutely accurate as 5C will give focus to 5th card. And 5th card being 5S gives the focus on judgement card and is a good position. So now it depends of the condition of jupiter of how good the judgement is.
@amit Yep. In my case it has gone both ways. My 7th lord Jupiter being ashamed in the 5th and not in the best dignity has given shame. A part of it has been an irresponsable sexuality. Sexual addiction even. The lord Venus is good though, in the 9th house, and I guess that is what helped me to get back on track. I was lucky it didn´t destroy me.
Staffan
Okay, it also means if you work out Jupiter issues, lot of things can go on track for you