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@ernst  Thanks, Ernst. If I remember right, did you say that there was no prior mention of Ketu in the old scriptures? Which means Ketu was under control, and the path forward was Rahu.

The Nakshatras being part of the Ecliptic but the Moon’s plane is not, brings up a lot of questions and theories in my mind, most probably asked and explored by many people and most probably has no answers.

Thank you for indulging me in this conversation. I have a lot of gaps in my knowledge that I am trying to fill in.

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no, not at all. rahu and ketu is a huge part of hinduism for a very long time. 

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@ernst  Is there any other reference to Tara in the scriptures or mythology that you can remember, besides her being Jupiter’s wife?

In Greek mythology, Hera was Zeus’s wife. In Roman mythology, Juno was associated as Jupiter’s female counterpart. In western astrology, the asteroid Juno orbits between Mars and Jupiter - son and husband.

Rama lost his wife to the earth. Brihaspati lost his wife to the Moon. 

The whole theme seems to be about abandonment felt by the feminine energy followed by loss for the masculine energy. Shiva also refused to accompany Sati and thus lost her. But hers included the abandonment by her father too.

So, I am trying to find out more about Tara. She could be the Nakshatras, or she could be someone else. Could she be a comet or an asteroid like Juno? Perhaps someone who only comes around once in a while to be with Jupiter which creates auspicious tidings.

I do not know what I am searching for - perhaps, myself. Maybe coming across more mythology associated with her might help me understand and heal my own wounding on a much more deeper level than what I have been able to achieve until now.

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when studying this myth, as all myths its important to remember that these myths are not here to show us morality or what is right or wrong, they are here to show how we work, they are symbols of human being. 

Mahabharata is always the place to start for any myths, search Tara and Brihaspati in Mahabharata. 

Some things to think about: Tara fell in love with the Moon, she did not want to come back. Indra talked her into going back to Jupiter though she loved the moon.

Brihaspati cursed the baby to be born as a neuter. The child was thus confused as to its role in life as it could not take a man's role or a woman's role. 

We can't seperate the wife from the husband. The wife is always the shakti, or POWER of the deity, so when we say, tara, jupiter's wife, fell in love with the moon, we are saying, Jupiter's power that he uses to do his duties where used with the moon to create Mercury. Jupiter was upset, why? Beause our power, our energies, do not alwasy do what we want them to do. IN fact, we would all be better off if we could flow with our own shakti and less with the ideas in our heads. So what happens here is that the most wise deity, he still has ideas in his head, his power has other ways of being and gets together with the moon even though his head thinks it is wrong to do so. OUt of it is born a unique child, a neuter, who wonders, where will i fit in, I m not like anyone else? How will i create if I am not man or woman? Saturn does not have this problem though a neuter, as he does not create, he terminates. But this was a problem to mercury. 

SO the myth shows that above above and beyond everything we have learned, been told, advised, etc (as jupiter is the advisor) our energy will act, and when it acts, it creates something unique, it makes the world different. 

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Thanks, Ernst. I get your point about searching for morality in the myths. That is not my intention. I am only trying to resolve my own dual energies. I will look again into Mahabharata and see what I can find.

I have Mercury starved this year and having stepped into the Mercury card recently, there have been triggers that I thought I had resolved. On a positive note, now I understand better how Mercury starved by Moon works.

By wanting to resolve the issue, I only get glimpses of what I should look into or what thread I need to follow. The rest unravels on its own in its own time, and sometimes the understandings are unexpected. Thank you for indulging me in this conversation. I really appreciate the help.

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Jupiter's power that he uses to do his duties where used with the moon to create Mercury.

I think I am beginning to see what you mean.

So Mercury being a neuter, what’s the best way to use him? What would be the best way to use Saturn?

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