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Remedies for Saturn Moon - EMDR

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Hi - I have a Sa, Mo conjunction in the 2nd in Scorpio w/ Me and Ke as well. @ernst in one of his videos talks about remedies to alleviate the traumatic experiences from following a healthy lifestyle, food/diet habits and spending quality time in solitude. In one of the videos he mentions getting a lot of therapy - does anyone have experience with EMDR? My therapist is recommending EMDR to help calm my nerves, not live in the past and subside those traumatic/abusive experiences. 

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Amit Bhat
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Flower essences like Australian flower essences can be very helpful to erase the trauma of Saturn moon. 

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@amit thanks Amit. Will research into this.

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@amit it would be great to hear what you think about the australian flower essences in comparison to Bach Flowers. My mother, who is naturopath, stated that the australian remedies were more powerful- but I would like to make my own experiences... what do you think, and which of the Australian essences would you recommend for Saturn starvation from Sun f. ex.? Is there a way of classifying that like Ernst does with the Bach Flowers? Thanks a lot!

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@tamarap 

Australian Bush Essences are indeed super powerful and addresses quite a big range of avastha issues.

I am working to develop a system to easily figure out the remedy based on which chakra is afflicted. So we need to know in which chakra Saturn is afflicted and treat that chakra symptoms first because they are very likely to provide the most intense symptoms. Say Saturn is in Leo, the person will experience lack of self esteem and lack of concentration unable to get centered in their self as Ajna chakra is afflicted. So, five corners for improving self esteem and jacaranda for staying centered and focussed could be very helpful. So, we need to listen carefully what symptom person wants to get resolved and take it from there.

I am planning to do a course on this soon. 

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@amit thanks a lot! This is interesting and how great would it be you doing a course about that! I have Saturn in Leo in the 7th and will try your recommendation 🙂 thank you

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@tamarap 

Okay great, to start with, add 7 drops from each of these into emergency essence that they provide and take for one month. After a month, emergency essence may not be required.

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@amit Thank you for being so kind (in general)! I am also taking in Bach Flowers, just "Star of Betlehem" at the moment- Can I take this with the Australian Bush Flowers? Or you think that is too much and we cannot evaluate the effects clear enough in mixing up? I think I will finish Star of Betlehem and then make an intermediate Bush Flower treatment 🙂

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@tamarap 

You won't need to take Star of Bethlehem. 

It's a super power combo.

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@amit ok! Anyway, i nearly have finished Star of Betlehem intake, Thank you :))!

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EMDR can help, also with a saturn moon conjunction there are always a lot of repressed emotions of dissapointment, abandonment or rejection and it's important that a person starts to give space to these emotions instead of automatically repressing them until they make the person emotionally or physically ill, make the person to thin or gain to much weight, etc. 

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@ernst Thanks Ernst. Therapy is helping unravel a few of my blind spots such as Cognitive Rigidity, unable to adapt to new experiences and via EMDR we are covering ground on traumatic incidences to slowly get to a closure.

How would you recommend giving space to these emotions - recognize and feel/ponder, or just let them pass like moving clouds? 

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@healthy_living I copied this from an earlier post today to answer you question: 

Either sleeping badly or sleeping to much is due to not living life fully as one needs to. This happens 99% of the time because a person is repressing some emotions and without hearing those emotions they cannot guide their lives right or know what they really need. This will of course, manifest as some physical symptom that a doctor may think needs treatment but the cause is simply not working with the emotions in the way that they are meant to help us. And of course, Rahu in 4th is going to struggle with this. To heal this is not difficult, it just takes constant awareness. So watch your body, watch when you get an energy dip, or some pain flares up anywhere in your body, at that moment look for what you just missed in your emotions. Was a feeling just coming up that is painful or upsetting or depressing and it gets swept under the rug so fast berore you can recognize it fully because maybe the solution to that feeling seems impossible or overwhelming? SOmething like that, find tha tfeeling and let yourself feel it 100%. That feeling is telling you what you NEED. or what you DONT NEED. Feel the conviction that you have the power and choice to go and get that need met no matter what other parts of you or the outside world is saying! If its someting you don't need, Feel the conviction that if it's something you don't need that you will NOT allow that into your life. that when it comes you will simply and firmly say, NO fucking way! 

the emotions are always communicating to us and the moment we ignore them, the body will give a problem and that is a sign to Look at the emotions. If we chronically don't look, we get chronic and more debilitating physical problems. Constant fatique, what they call chronic fatique symptom is simply that. Nothing wrong with the body, but the emotions are chronically not being utilized. 

So thats how to monitor the downs of the body, but what if you are already down? either in pain or worn out al the time or sleeping to much or not at all? Then simply lay down, and let your feelings flow through the fatigue or the restlessness or the pain whatever the symptom may be. don't fight these things, just let the emotions FLOW through these things and out of your body, so let your feelings flow out through your fatigue. let the energy of the feelings flow out through the physical  problem. Pay attention to any feelings that may arise. The energy of repressed feelings that we are unaware of is what we have to let out, and when doing that some feelings may arise that we need to pay attention to, if they do, recognize them, spend time with them, and realize they are telling you something about  YOU, either what you need or what you don't need. What hurts you, or what helps you. 

I healed years of reoccurring severe jaw and back pain in a few days doing that. Back  pain that would leave me crawling around the house because i was  unable to stand, sometimes for upto 3 weeks, and jaw pain so severe 4x pain killers would do nothing to alleviate the pain and I would be disabled by pain for days at a time not able to think. This really works! 

 

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@ernst This is awesome. Thank you for sharing. I will need to reread this couple of times to get the fully essence. Coincidently, during my EMDR sessions there is a lot of emphasize on body scans and to really feel which part of the physical body this repressed energy being locked up. I am encouraged more to feel how my entire physical body is undergoing at that moment as opposed to just talking from my head.

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@healthy_living Hi, having some experience (with Sa/Mo conjunct, both starved and other planets starved, too) in different remedies I could recommend some additional tecniques I found helpful:

the binaureal beats (only with cable headphones), still help me a lot to relax and before I´m going to sleep, then the Journey of Brandon Bays: she works directly with emotions / traumata (sometimes there are free offers ...): https://home.thejourney.com/ ... to get more in touch with the body: Lomi Lomi Nui massage and the Ho´óponopono: both hawaiian methods to find peace for body and mind ... or the ayurvedic self-massage using ayurvedic oils and starting the day by massageing yourself or at least the feet, you´ll find videos for sure, getting thus closer to/into your body with self-care - take a bath with base salt for the feet and meanwhile imagine that your higher self or a transparent very light ball from above moves slowly, slowly down to your head, through the whole body taking all dark stuff, thoughts, emotions down through your feet under your feet into the earth and then feel how your body feels like ...

EFT emotional freedom technique could also offer you some release - especially knocking softly the sternum - wish you all the best!

 

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I will be teaching a new course soon that will cover all this, what is happening, how its caused, how to heal it. 

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@ernst That will be awesome. Looking forward to the new course.

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