Hi Ernst and Everyone,
In the „Graha Sutras“, the chapter about the five elements, the elements of fire and water are initially assigned, but not additionally to the Sun and the Moon. What is the reason for this? Is it because the Sun and the Moon occupy a superior position? They also do not appear in the interactions of the elements, later when it comes to the elemental cycles.
In the section "Five objects of the senses" it is written: "...All that is materially created is created via the five elements and thus the five starry Grahas are responsible for producing everything that is experienced. The luminaries, the Sun and Moon, Atma and Manas, are the self and consciousness that do the experiencing"
Can I conclude, that the five elements in this chapter refer solely to our experiences within this body, on this earth and that therefore only these five Grahas (Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus and Mercury) are shown interacting with one another, elementally? So, accordingly the Sun and Moon would be considered in the sense that they represent the Self and the Consciousness, which experience these interactions. Even though we know that the Sun is associated with the fire element and the Moon with the water element and that it must have an impact on the overall elemental interactions...
I am just wondering whether, in a birth chart I can still take them into account- in terms of elemental balance.
Thanks a lot!
Yes, the sun and moon are the self and consciousness in which the elements are being experienced through the 5 senses ruled by the elements. Sun and moon are fire and water in a different sense, in a more male and female, yin and yang, going towards god - sun, going towards the senses - Moon. The sun is the self that witnesses, the moon is the self that is subjected to the experiences of life. So no, do not use them for elemental balance, there are just 5 planats, whats their balance?
You do use sun and moon in context of pitta, vatta and kapha though. with moon being kapha and vatta as its changeable which is vatta.