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Jack of Diamonds is one of the card that I envy the least. They seem to have such a rough time. KS on the ecliptic, say no more.

I´ve made consultation for a few and I find them often being very difficult to reach with any message of acceptance hardships. JH is called the salesman´s card for a reason, and it seems that most of them are busy selling the idea to life itself that karma´s law for some reason shouldn´t apply to them, or at least the conditions should be negotiated.

But as said: KS ion their ecliptic don´t let them get away with that. But the idea of being God´s favourite child is so rooted in them that it´s hard for them to accept consecuences. Their charm should bail them out. Life should make an exception for them. And everything gets blocked. I don´t think that they find themselves in harder situations than anyone else, but even small tests become severe hardships for them, due to their failed strategy.

The 8H Mercury card is crucial of course. If it´s bad, you get a people pleaser (I´ve seen it) or someone projecting their lack of self esteem on their environment. If good, they have emotional resistence.

And then we have Jim Carrey. He´s a JD that actually seems to have overcome much of the challenges that his spread has presented to him. More or less gaslit for having revealed dark Hollywood secrets, he seems to have reached a mature and balanced state for which he wins respect. 

Very similar to what his character in Truman show had to go through. Seeing through the social constructions, finding self respect and self love. 

Even the Mask was about that I believe - I haven´t watched it for many many years though, so I´m not sure. But the symbology is fascinating - the mask, wearing masks. In an interview I stumbled upon on youtube he says: "I don´t exist. I have played many roles, one of them is Jim Carrey." The Mask indeed.

4S tends to wear a mask a lot, David Bowie being the most famous example. Does 4H do that too? JH has it on the Sun position.

And, finally this movie in which God / Morgan Freeman grants him all power, Bruce Almighty, in which he doesn´t have to bargain with God anymore: God gives him all the power to do what he wants. That´s the JD:s theme in a nutshell, I believe.

Any thoughts or personal experiences?

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Someone close to me is a JD. He's always been hard for me to analyze, 3 planets in Gemini but not talkative or cerebral at all - just naturally intelligent and skillful (if he wants to be).

He is a diligent and responsible employee. If anything, tends to take on too much - I often need to remind him that he doesn't have a manager's salary or title so he doesn't need to bear the weight of the stress and responsibilities of a manager in his team.

He does love the idea of easy money, though. He likes gambling (sports) and is very good at it but stops himself from doing it because he doesn't feel like he has the resources to be able to bet properly. With detachment. So again, a financially responsible person overall.

His favorite genre of movies bar none are heists 😁 looooves watching people rob and steal, when I ask him why (I definitely don't like such movies), he says "I must have been a thief in a previous life".

The 4H on the Sun card definitely makes him a very loving, gentle and calm person. 

Certainly some losses and disappointments in life, as you mentioned - KS on the Ecliptic tracks. In his chart, his Lagna lord Saturn is in the 12th in Capricorn, so that also indicates losses and expenses. But his ego doesn't suffer much from them as he simply never had a big ego or ambitions to begin with, in line with the Saturnian vibe. 

 

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@nkan Interesting portrait, thank you. There is a certain JD aura, even in your description of him, or it may be suggestion from my side. Like a challenging attitude towards life; like they are here to really be who they are and then - willingly or not - face consecuences for it. I was just listening to a banal reddit story on youtube in which the GF said: "This is who I am, take it or leave it." That attitude. Charming, but again: challenging. In the short story the BF had enough and threw her out.

The closest we come to that in the portrait you presented are the heist movies, I guess. So at least in his imagination he likes to be Bonnie and Clyde. A rebel, a more or less noble crook, someone who bends the rules. That´s JD in a nutshell to me. Maybe he really was a thief in a previous life, or maybe it´s just JD energy.

In "Me, myself and Irene" there is this scene in which his motel room has been swarmed around by a complete police squad with the intention to enter and kill him and the girl, them not knowing anything about that. Just as they are about to kick in the door, guns in hand, the police gets the false information that they are somewhere else, and leave in seconds for to chase him at that other place. Before the dust has even settled, the Jim Carrey character walks out of the room and says to the girl: "If I didn´t have bad luck, I´d have no luck at all." That´s a JD moment to me. They are luckier than they think they are.

Maybe they really are God´s golden child, just as they think they are, but he´s a too loving parent then wanting them to be a spoiled brat?

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Staffan, the timing of your post, I was just thinking that I should take cards of truth course in order to get to know myself better.. I'm a Jack of Diamonds, and these days I've been thinking if I was a princess or a slave in my previous life haha (funny not funny).. I don't really know much about Jack of Diamonds but what I can say - I need freedom so much to the point that I've been really avoiding responsibilities and all I wanted to do is escape and explore life when I was younger. And I do feel like I lived many different lifetimes in one life. (I do have a pretty painful chart, I grew up with a saturn - sun opposition parent, who was focusing a lot on me, telling how should I look, dress, do, what mistakes me and my other family members make, never forgetting those mistakes, smashing table with her fist telling that we should shut up and listen, because she's talking, literally saying: ''I'm the oldest, therefore, you have to obey me'', so probably that's why all I wanted is to escape when I turned 18). I also can't stand chores or if I need to ''serve'' someone (I also have Uranus in 6th house). Sometimes I think - am I a spoiled brat or was I a slave? Why do I need this freedom no matter what and have this carelessness? I would feel ashamed or guilty sometimes. But also, I have people telling me that I do work hard and am no1 person that they come to ask for help. And it's true, I guess it took some time for me to find myself and yes I heard people saying that I did look like a spoiled girl until they get to know me. 😆 That's what I can share so far..

 

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@kannessa-chan Thanks for sharing your experience! That´s an interesting idea, resistence to obligations due to experience of slavery in earlier life(s). Seems reasonable to me.

What I really like and find in a way desirable in JD is your willingness to put yourself out there. Like demanding answer from life, or from God: "Show me love", as the song goes. There is an honesty to that. Like a child challenging a father.

And then Sun/Saturn opposition. You have the work cut out for you it seems. 

Jacks are young, playful cards, so being fun and having fun is always going to be an important key. You are not only allowed to play and have fun, you are expacted to. That´s how I see it.

Sunshower...

Both the card itself and the Su/Sa opposition create great conditions for growth, obviously. It´s a tough card to master, but if you do the gain is huge.

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@staffan Happy to share! Sun - Saturn opposition is in one of my parent's chart, not mine : ) I'm Leo ascendant, having Sun, Venus, Mars in 6th house, Jupiter in 4th, Mercury and Saturn in 7th, Moon in 8th. Rahu in 5th, Ketu in 11th. As I'm a Leo asc, 5th house is important for me, so yes, it's been a journey and a complete rollercoaster of trying to find out who I really am, to follow my creative inspirations and trying to break out of constraints. My mercury is not good and based on what you said about importance of Mercury for Jack of Diamonds and being a people pleaser - yes, I have a tendency for that and I tried to please my parents and partners, just to find out that this way doesn't work (combust planets), so I got better with that (it still comes out sometimes, I'm still working on that). Early in my childhood there was an emphasis put on me by one of my parents that I'm 'special', however, I never looked down upon anyone thinking that I'm better, but I did think that I had a special mission haha and I was humbled down real fast when I left my home and saw real life. And now, when I study astrology I got humbled down even more and stopped feeling guilty.. Just these recent days I started wondering why I crave freedom so much and can't stand restraint? Am I really that spoiled or maybe I was a slave? In this lifetime, I had lots of fun, my attitude is that things will work out somehow - just have faith! 

 

Once I'll take cards of truth course and learn more about Jack of Diamonds, maybe I can share more!

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