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Mattias
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Most things in life seems to be covered by the concrete meanings list, but I don´t see any direct indication for lies or false information in the cards. Only indirectly by the Jack of Spades as a con man and a thief. Plus some spades indications approaching that; misunderstanding, incompatiblity, confusion and similar.

I don´t know what card would indicate that though. Since 2 of Clubs is just information; no indication whether it has any actual value or not. Untested. Otherwise I would have expected that to be a possible meaning of 3 of Clubs; getting away from information.

Any thoughts about that anyone/Ernst?

Mattias

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@meyes the 2 of Spades can cover lies and false information, according to the concrete meanings video. Here are some of my notes from the video:

2 of Spades is:

-bad news (all 2's are news)

-betrayal (you got screwed so your only option is self-reliance)

-gossip (the act of gossiping or being gossiped about)

-a grudge (a hate or resentment you harbour towards another person, so you close off from them and fly in to yourself)

-guilt (becoming completely self-sufficient because of guilt, not wanting to relate at all to that person)

-negative emotions (that a person can just get stuck in and never get out of if it's in a bad place)

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Mattias
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Yes, it comes close. But to my understanding it wouldn´t lead to explicit prediction "you are being lied to" or "there is false information".

 

Mattias

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@meyes Do you read reversals? There are a handful of clubs cards that could possibly indicate this if they were reversed. I also thought of 7 of Clubs - someone struggling with their ideas of something - like they thought they could trust someone and the black tower comes through and reveals a crisis and false information.

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Mattias
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@rhiannon   Only the face cards. But yes, I considered that too; "crisis in knowledge". Maybe could be read that way, good suggestion, TY.

 

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Mattias
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Not in card reading Mirela, only in the Birth Card system.

 

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Mirela
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@meyes in manual spreads I would look for reversed cards in all suits really...Spades and Diamonds for lying about/to self and Hearts and Clubs for lying to/about others

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