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Hi Ernst,

I recall you saying that the Sun rules the Indian race, and Mars rules the Native American race. Is that right?

My sense is that it's the opposite. The Sun rules constancy, and the Native American communication style is to share endlessly. Whereas Mars rules the eyes, and the Indians see things more clearly than any others (i.e. "jyotish").

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Also, the Sun rules lying. She told you that He always tells you the truth. But that was a lie.

Also, She is a She. She told you that She is a He, but that was a lie, too.

She is consistent, though.

Except when She's not.

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She also rules laughter, humor, things that are funny. That's why funny things are yellow. Like giraffes, bananas, Yello, Simpsons characters. Surprise makes you laugh, too.

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Also, She wants me to tell you that she loves you so much, and you're doing such great work.

Sorry, I'm just the messenger.

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@jeffk Don´t be sorry!

Mind to explain from what myth the he/she thing refers to? 

I live in Mexico, I´m a Sun dancer..... I´m interested.

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@staffan The Sun is considered to be a masculine planet. The masculine planet. But She's feminine. Or, the part of Her that's communicating is feminine. She's the part of the masculine that's feminine.

I realize that's a contraction in terms, but She rules paradoxes. 

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@jeffk Don´t worry, I get it. I´m right in that phase right now. My 57th year on Earth in this lifetime.

Even seen myself in a feminine form in dreams lately. Rather: experienced myself as a woman.

Soundtrack of my life in this moment: ABBA. 🙂

 

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@staffan That's very auspicious! Congratulations.

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@jeffk I´ve got my AK Moon in the 4th house, Uttaraphalguni, Sun and Mercury in the 7th... Gemini ascendant for dual perception...

So clearly one of the main themes in my life.

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@staffan Say more about what you're seeing here? I feel like I'm not seeing what you're seeing, and would like to.

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@jeffk If I can. Not sure what you mean by "here" though? The indications in my chart that I gave you, generally in the forum, or...?

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@staffan I mean "AK Moon in the 4th house, Uttaraphalguni, Sun and Mercury in the 7th."

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@jeffk Yeah... AtmaKaraka Moon. Moon as a self factor. I "am" the Moon. 

AK - "I" - the Moon in the 4th house, it´s most natural placement: in the feminine house. I´m "at home" in the feminine.

Vargottama Moon and Vargottama lagna, so the Moon is in the 4th in D9 as well.

The nakshatra, Uttaraphalguni: one of the two nakshatras represented by a bed or a hammock. Female nakshatra, ruled by no less than Dhaga, THE SUN AS BLISS.

It´s special power (shakti): "Giving prosperity through union or marriage"... So it´s very relationship oriented. Female, indeed.

Then the Sun and Mercury in the 7th house: strong focus on relationships. Sun is a self factor obviously, but so is Mercury, being my lagna lord.

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@staffan So how does that shape your relationships?

I have Mars AK in Aries rasi, Scorpio navamsa. So that's the "ride" I'm on. Good times.

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@jeffk Haha, yeah, must be fun. Especially compared to my Aries: Sa/Ra. What house though?

I´ve been quite taken advantage of in relationships. Sun in the 7th: dominant partners and longlasting relationships. *sigh* My first relationship was extremely toxic and didn´t end well. The classical story about an insecure young man trying to man up marrying a several years older woman; I was a pushover, but managed to get out of it after a few years. Next relationship: we were on very different pages but worked very well together as parents. Two kids. I guess it´s fair to say that I couldn´t handle her, but the truth was also that I didn´t want to have to "handle" her. I broke up. She has Saturn/Rahu with Jupiter, so quite a handful. We still work surprisingly well as parents though. 

Then now, my Lupita. A feminine (Ra/Mo in the Lagna) yet tough girl, King of Spades. But King of Spades are fun; as ruthless as they may be, as soft and funny are they (Jack of Hearts on the jack position, and that card repeated in EVERY year spread.)

I´m 56 and she´s 47. The rules of male and female are kind of turned on it´s head, as it should be in our age. We play our traditional roles and we are both comfortable in that, I wear the pants and she wears - literally - mostly skirts or dresses. But we are both beyond it in a way. She´s a medium and has a high level of consciousness. It´s a special kind of relationship. But for sure: Having the Sun in the 7th invites strong partners, and if I hadn´t had KH on the EC and KD on the Uranus card I would probably had been eaten alive as I was in my first marriage. Mercury in the 7th isn´t a hit neither; makes you very aware about everyone´s need, except for your own.

Uttaraphalguni nakshatra, how it works? Always looking for a way to blend the families together. Consciously or unconsciously. My first MIL was a professional illustrator; I became a crossword writer partly because of that and worked together with her for several years. Living in Lupita´s shared family house now, eating my MIL´s food every day. Being her private driver when she needs, etc...

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@staffan Thanks for the thorough share! Aries is my 4th, with the 3rd house cusp & Mars in it, so a Ruchaka here.

My polarity with my fiancee is similar - I have a male body but a feminine heart; she has a female body but a masculine heart. It's like having two relationships in one.

Yeah, with Sun in the 7th, you're going to attract dominant women but not necessarily want to be dominated by them. I have Saturn in the 7th, so I like to be dominated by them, but don't necessarily attract them. Same/same but different, as the Sun & Saturn always are.

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@jeffk Listening to Pat Allen and Ernst Wilhelm lecturing about her ideas has helped me a lot to sort of feminine/masculine stuff. Like: there is an age for masculinity and one for feminity. It´s not so much women vs men, or shouldn´t be, but rather: women of a certain age vs men of a certain age. Understanding how men naturally grow into their female side, especially if they have taken a deep dive into their masculine side, and vice versa.

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@staffan Yeah, there's a million variations on that theme. But, y'know, the Sun ages things, while Saturn keeps things young. So younger women (Sun/Venus) with older men (Saturn/Venus) is kind of built into the system.

I have Venus in Capricorn (1st) with lord Saturn in the 7th, so my fiancee is 27 while I'm 51. But it just works. It's nuts.

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Oh, one more thing. She rules memory, but only because She rules forgetfulness, and multitasking. Spicyness spaciness. She has no idea where She is.

Also, a car accident is death (Saturn).prevented by a vehicle (Venus). So She rules those, in a way. She rules all.of the Saturn starvations.

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My wife just introduced me to one of her favourite songs, "I don´t love you" by 10CC. In some way I think it wraps up the paradox that we are talking about, or at least illustrates it in a charming way.

The Sun has honeyyellow eyes. Symbolizing compassion. But before compassion there must be receptivity, since it´s the other person´s pain and grief that awakes our compassion and we must be receptive to it for to feel it. Receptivity is feminine.

One way of seeing it.

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@staffan Yeah, compassion is an interesting way to think of it. At the same time, it's compulsion: the yellow-eyed one is compelling you to do what they want you to do. So you could think of it as control, dominance - or as them receiving your openness, surrender. Kinky.

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@jeffk 🤣 

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