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Sanskrit Syllables Of The Rashis

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Hi Ernst,

After watching your recent youtube interview with Dustin Cormier where y'all discuss using the 1st syllable of someone's name to find their most significant planet and/or rashi in the absence of birth time, I started wandering if you've tried experimenting with using the actual syllables as they are assigned to the rashis, and how they could be linked to someones first name, or a personal mantra they happened to receive.

I am not talking about the 108-fold nakshatra pada-based Hoda Chakra that is much more popular for choosing names and mantras. I'm not talking about the Sarvatobhadra Chakra either. I'm referring to the system with the basic sanskrit syllables assigned to the rashis instead of the planets.

David Frawley introduced it in his Ayurvedic Astrology book (not the older "Astrology of the Seers" most of us have already read), where he claims it was contained in some ancient texts on mantra yoga.

Freedom Cole has it on his website with a few minor differences with regard to Virgo and Pisces with the S, Sh, and Ksh sounds. He referenced the Brihat Tantrasara by Krishnananda Agamavagisha, which is not very old but was probably compiled from traditions and references traced back to earlier or lost sources.

Thanks,

S.

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I have not seen that work as well. also, i don't like giving totally different sound groups to different planetary rasi lords. 

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@ernst I also find it odd that all the sounds of Jupiter are contained in Capricorn, where it is debilitated. And the sounds of Mars are in Venus sign Libra, and the sounds of Venus are in Mars sign Scorpio.

But for several reasons, a rashi can reflect its opposite sign. Or we can see a glint of the opposite sign in it.

I have come to see that both the Sun and the Moon create the tropical rashis and this may be the reason the tropical signs work for those in the southern hemisphere even though the seasons are reversed. Capricorn is is not the dark cold month there so we could say its more like Cancer for them. But Cancer is where the Moon is full during that month. And a full moon emphasizes or activates the rashi it's in and complements its opposite. The absence of the Sun in the rashi is made up for by a completely full moon.

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Yes, i see what you are saying about the full moon and it makes sense. 

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@ernst Thanks. And this is where I contemplated Jaimini's "mirror rashi" concept as the full moon fully reflects the Sun, where the mirror rashi could be its opposite sign. The Moon is the spouse of the Sun. Our spouse is our mirror. A rashi at its extreme takes on the characteristics of the opposite sign. The opposite sign is the spouse.

Also, when you stand in front of the mirror and move away from it, you see yourself moving away from you as well.

So say the Sun is in Libra moving south of the equator. In this instance, the northern hemisphere would hypothetically be a mirror of the southern hemisphere. What the Sun would see is itself moving away from itself, which in this case it would see itself moving "north" from the equator=Aries. 

You didn't get good results trying this approach to Jaimini rashi dashas?

Your current approach makes sense too though. But I would think a horizontal line through the middle of the rashi chakra square would serve as the mirror sheet, dividing Aqu. from Cap. and Can. from Leo. But still, calling the masculine sign of the same lord a mirror of its feminine sign feels counterintuitive. And I have just made it weirder by also including Leo as mirror of Cancer, because its the Moon that is the mirror of the Sun instead.

Its complicated.

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@mitryendra80 

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I would think a horizontal line through the middle of the rashi chakra square would serve as the mirror sheet, dividing Aqu. from Cap. and Can. from Leo. But still, calling the masculine sign of the same lord a mirror of its feminine sign feels counterintuitive. And I have just made it weirder by also including Leo as mirror of Cancer, because its the Moon that is the mirror of the Sun instead.

The way I see it, the Moon might reflect the Sun’s rays, but it’s in the Moon that the Sun can see itself. The Sun as a fixed 1 stands alone. It is the potentiality of that which is possible. But it is when the 1 can see the connections that it makes through the Moon as the flexible 2, does the potentiality become reality. Same can be read with regards to the masculine-feminine signs.

With Aquarius and Capricorn, both are ruled by the non-gender-specific Saturn.

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Yes, it is complicated. We can look at the mirror as potentially any sign that is aspected. A mirror has to be seen, drishti, to be a mirror. So it has to be one of the signs that is aspected don't you think? The mirror is what looks like us or has a semblance to us, which would be the signs that share lordship. That's how I see it. What you say about the hemisheres is very insightful and when you learn about the aditya zodiac it will even make more sense to you. The aditya zodiac starts the first sign right before the vernal equinox, not after the vernal equinos. so the 7th aditya is when the sun is moving out of the northern hemisphere and the 8th aditya is when the sun enters the southern hemisphere. 

and I love your idea that when we move away from our mirror we are moving away from ourselves. 

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@ernst Thanks. I've been laid up for a couple of days so I am just now catching up on reading posts.

Definitely looking forward to the Aditya zodiac.

The other house system has also been on my mind for some time now. The clockwise house system, which most people neglect. The house system or bhava cusps are referred to as "local space", but the clockwise house system is like "local time" and is like a microcosmic zodiac and a more "subjective" experience of the houses.

 

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@ernst Hi Ernst, I'm looking at a chart of a person who was given a Venus name at birth but has been called a Moon name their entire life. In their chart they have the Sun in Cancer and the Moon with a Node in Libra. Even though Cancer has the Sun, I feel like I should use Libra as their Ascendant since it's has the Venus and Moon connection. Neither the Moon or the Sun is their AK and the signs of Cancer and Libra are empty in the Navamsa. Am I judging this correctly to use Libra as the focal sign for this person?

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