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Veronica
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I just learned (through the videos and according to his chart) that my son could have died when he was born, however, nothing bad happened except for a moment in which doctors said he was not breathing and they woke me up from my meditation to inject some substance to make our heartbeats faster- then took me back to my room and a few hours later he was born perfectly healthy- I was meditating and making my breathing slower on purpose - never felt any danger. Was he supposed to live anyway or doctors saved us?

For many years since a little boy, he used to wake up crying and say "I don't want to die"

anyway, many people do remedies and you recommend not skipping doctors' recommendations take all precautions etc... can things like that really prevent us from dying or our days are already counted (which is what I am inclined to think and the reason why predictions can be accurate ) and we leave when is our time to leave, nothing can be done to prevent death other than our spirit fighting to live -

what do you guys think?  

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Leah T
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@Veronica best guess without seeing his chart, is that he likely has a yoga or another graha influence that is causing protection. I don't remember all the rules, for the happening of this but I know in the Medical Astrology course, Ernst lays out the various ways this can happen.  Perhaps if you ask some of the people in the Medical Astrology Group to have a look at his chart, they can explain how he is averting the indications of death you see in the chart.  Or maybe Ernst will be able to give a quick answer.  Of course they can only guess without having birth data. 

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Veronica
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 moon in 12th, ketu in 1st, Sun, Mars and Mercury in 8th , cancer lagna. Saturn is highest in shadbala and Jupiter which is in Aries - I believe that those 2 grahas are doing the job - so even when Mars is in 8th with by being influenced by Jupiter is helping, but I'm worried about his Mars-Sun period which is not far from now

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codydeboer
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Hi Veronica, I remember studying longevity, but I can't remember exactly what course it was. What I do remember is that there are a lot of yogas for longevity, and we don't just look at a "short life" yoga and go "oh it will be a short life", because there are also "medium life" and "long life" yogas that we add all together for a larger more comprehensive picture of the life, just like we would do with the whole chart. Did you look into that course? I can't count the times I've seen things in my chart where I thought I was doomed, to later find there was something else that helped out, or became even more advantageous. I also realized I should not have been looking at when I am supposed to die, its kind of a dark place. I think if you read "your son could have died when has was born", and he didn't die, then excellent! But I wouldn't go much further.

This made me really think about death, fate, and free will though.     

I have also thought that death was fixed, your time is your time, which I think for the most part it just is, but I also think that time can come sooner depending on how quickly we are able to exhaust all karmas and desires, and it can be extended if we resist our destiny. This is interesting because you would think that reaching a "siddha" or perfected state where everything in life is amazing would be a good reason to keep living, but... on the contrary, that's exactly when we are free, so what more do we have left to do here? And when life sucks, and we don't wan't to be alive, that's the exact moment we should be alive so we can work through our shit, as hard as it is.    

Some people have a long life, 80+ years and they are absolutely miserable, bitter, fearful, completely stuck and want to die, yet death eludes them. So is death fixed for that person's life? Or is the universe waiting on them to complete something and fulfill their destiny, which they keep avoiding? In that particular instance, would their time come sooner if they used free will to complete a karma or fulfill a desire? Its interesting because Saturn can be a karaka for life span, and at the same time Saturn is our karma as well. 

So unfortunately, if we alive and on this planet... we got shit to do. 

 

 

 

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 Fery
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@codydeboer couldn’t agree more- I started looking into the longevity class for some other reasons but I connected the dots and noticed the relation on my son’s chart- and I’m glad I didn’t have this info  when I was pregnant. I wrote this in a philosophical questioning - I don’t think we can control if we are meant to live or not - and some parts of fate have to be accepted and only thing we can influence is how we feel about it- more than once I’ve been in situations where just a sudden random decision- or intuition has saved me from serious life threatening events where no one else has come out safely and, the only explanation I have for that is that it was not my time therefore  something protects me - all this easier said than done because when is about people you care you wish to do something about it but all we can do is wish for the best and enjoy the present as is

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