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Clarification on important principle of judgment


AnilGidwani
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Hi Ernst,

In the book "Vault of the Heavens", on page 272 Ch Judging the Horoscope, it says

"The Karaka is the planet that is the causer/producer of the item under consideration, the house gives birth to the item, and the house lord is the item under consideration in its activities"

Should that be 

The Karaka is the planet that is the causer/producer of the item under consideration, the house gives birth to the item, and the house lord has the item under consideration in its activities

And by "item under consideration", do we mean the "signification under consideration"?

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Ernst Wilhelm
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How I would see it now is that the karaka is the producer, the maker. The bhava is the concrete thing. The lord is the consciousness that is experiencing and managing the thing. 

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Hi Ernst,

Let us say Venus is in 4th and Mars is in 9th. For this chart, is the property/home/real estate (4th bhava) produced by Mars (as he is the karaka for property) or Venus?

If produced by Mars, what is Venus role?

If produced by Venus, what is Mars role in this?

 

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Anand

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The producer is mars, the producer is always the Karaka.

Then there are the minifestors, those are the lord, Jupiter and Mercury. These manifest a bhava, bring it into existence. 

Then there are the conditioners, which are all the planets, so in this case, Venus is conditioning the real estate to be Venusian. 

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