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Hello Ernst,

I'm going through the homework doc for Jaimini Sutras l. The piece that I'm confused on is when number of grahas and dignity strength trump each other. The answer to question 3 is:

"Mars is causing argali in 4th, but the argali is obstructed by Saturn in 10th. Saturn is stronger than mars on account of being exalted and there are as many planets in Libra as in Aries, so full obstruction is present."
 
The answer to question 4 is:

"Saturn in 4th from 7th is causing argala, this argala is blocked by Mars in the 10th from the 7th. While Saturn is stronger than Mars, there are not LESS planets in Aries and so the argali is blocked."
 
I'm not understanding why for 4 the same number of planets doesn't defer to Saturn's exaltation strength again. I hope this offers enough information for clarification.
 
Many thanks!
 
 
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Ernst Wilhelm
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Its alwasy blocked if the number of planets are the same. 

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@ernst 

Even with the # of karaka planets being the same in each sign? Don't you then go to the dignity to verify which is stronger? 

I attached Yogananda's chart. Ma/Ju in 9th form argala even though Ve/Me are in 5th due to Ma being higher dignity? Or does Ve/Me obstruct?

Also, do the nodes also form argala in their respective positions - both from asc and 7th? Or do those cancel/obstruct each other? 

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@scott-m-19 

Here Ve and Me will obstruct the argala because they are not less in number than argala causing planets

For the obstruction to not happen, 2 conditions must be fulfilled:

  • First: ensure the number of planets (including nodes) is less
  • Next: if above fulfilled, check if the rasi is weaker as per the First Source of Strength principles (like number of karakas and dignity etc.)

Only when both conditions satisfy, they will not be able to obstruct the Argala

 

Nodes also form argala. They'll be in opposing positions only when in 4th and 10th, in which case they'll obstruct each other if no other planet with them

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@rajan 

Ma/Ju form raj yoga for Leo asc. Sa stains it though but still forms yoga. Since Ma/Ju don't form argala, is that raj yoga not viable? Given his life circumstances, seems like that raj yoga was prominent in Yogananda's life. 

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@scott-m-19 

Ya.

I vaguely recall what Ernst might have mentioned: that he Sri Yogananda was actually not able to fulfill his dharma fully. He wanted to go to Himalayas and meditate but he could not. So maybe that's where the obstruction contributed too.

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@rajan 

What about this example: Ve/Me in 9th and Mo in 5th. All are in friend dignity. 

Does Ve/Me still form argala? 

There is less planets in obstruction house but all in same dignity. 

My understanding is that this example fulfills #2 in the First Source of Strength in Ernsts translation. 

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@scott-m-19 

Yes, Ve and Me form argala, but for a different reason

We don't need to check dignity here, coz Moon is already weaker as it is only one karaka, whereas Ve and Me combine to form 2 karakas. So the Ve and Me rasi becomes stronger than the Moon occupied rasi

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@scott-m-19 my understand is if you have 1 planet in the obstruction house vs 2 planets in the argala house, the argala house won...

 

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@tuyetv 

Yeah, just trying to see different examples of argala forming and being obstructed...A little tricky for me...Would love to see an example when you have to look at the different levels of First Source of Strength to validate it. 

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Thanks for that! My notes were confusing, so I couldn't tell if number of planets was the deciding factor or not. Jaimini is so fascinating. I love learning a new step and then walking it through the charts of all my people to absorb it.

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