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hi there,

please can someone advise:

in the course of building blocks, under the topic of planetary aspects, ernst says we should use the planetary aspects in the rasi chart to analyze their influences in different vargas. in the audio "grahas sutras" class no 3 he analyses complexion by using planetary aspects, and he uses the rasi and d-30 charts to determine complexion of a person. when he analyses the d-30 chart. he uses aspects of planet to the lagna and lagna lord as they presented in the d-30, and not as the astronomically aspects of the planets as drawn from the rasi chart.

please help me in understanding the reason for that, could it be that the audios are old and since then there has been change in his teaching of the concept of planetary aspects in the vargas?

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I no longer use planetary aspects in the varga charts. 

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@ernst ,thank you ,i was confused a little buy that video.

so in determining complexion you use only the rasi?

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@ernst 

as we don't use aspects in the Vargas, as they are not astronomically supported, is it right to assume we don't also look at the bhava casp a planet in the varga conjunct with ?

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yes, and you can use rasi aspects in the D30

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i have sent you also this question and wasnt sure if you saw it as you didnt reply, would you mind giving your view on that please?

, regarding a planet dignity in the vargas, how does one judge an exalted moon or debilitated moon in the vargas ,as well as mercury exaltation and debilitation in the vargas, with regards to their degrees in the vargas?  do we look at the degrees of those planets as indicated by the varga?  for example ,if moon in any varga, is placed in taurus  do we determine his exaltation by his degrees in the varga? meaning, exa  when 0-3 degrees not exalted 3-30 (if 3-30 will his dignity in the varga defined by temporary friendship of venus to moon in the rasi plus natural friendship of venus to moon(which is neutral) in the varga?)

also determining moolatricona and own rasi in the vargas and the rasi as part of calculating dignity of a planet .

1. in the rasi chart: if a planet has limiting degrees to his moolatricona and own rasi definition and he falls out of those degrees  how do you determine his dignity ?(for example ,  mercury is:

moolatricona in 15 – 20 Virgo

and own rasi in 20 – 30 Virgo, and Gemini 

how do you determine mercury dignity if he is in 0-10 degrees of virgo or alternatively if he is  0-10 Gemini?

       

2. in the vargas: do yo conceder the degrees of the planet as it is in the varga, with regards to the same question as mentioned in part 1. above?

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Yes, use the degress in the vargas as well. 

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@ernst thank you for that,

how do you determine mercury dignity if he is in 0-20 degrees Gemini

( mercury is: "own rasi" 20-30 degrees)

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@sharonsegall Mercury is in its own sign in Gemini, independently of the degrees. It's "own sign" 20-30 degrees in Virgo only (doesn't apply to Gemini).

In Virgo:

0-15 - Exaltation

15-20 - MT

20-30 - Own sign

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@mona

in a table that is in the graha sutras manual mercury is defined in its "own sign" both in gemini and virgo 20-30 degrees

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@sharonsegall I don’t remember this table specifically but it’s correct that Mercury is in its own sign in Gemini 20-30. I guess the confusion comes from the fact that it’s not specified that it is also in own sign from 0-20 in Gemini as well? Or maybe I should have written that “it’s only in Virgo that own sign is limited to 20-30”. Either way, Mercury in Gemini is 100% in its own sign. 

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@mona thank you! you are right, the table was showing for mercury own rasi:

20-30 virgo, gemini

so i read it as they both falling under 20-30 ????  

there was another thing i was confused about,

about natural friendship of Venus to the moon, in few occasion Ernst says moon doesn't have any enemies , but if you calculate the position of the moon (in his M/T TAURUS) to libra its 6 places  from it, which makes it an enemy to the moon. so Venus enemy to the moon. did i understand it wrong?

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@sharonsegall

Yes, Libra is 6th from Moon, but the other rasi of Venus (Taurus) is where Moon exalts. So they cancel out each other and hence Venus is neutral to Moon

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@rajan thank you , of course .

but there was a remark that ernst said tho ,in the natural relationship course, in the building block ,when he says venus and moon enemies both ways , i guess that was said by mistake?

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@sharonsegall It probably was a mistake. Venus is not enemy to the Moon but Moon is enemy to Venus.

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@mona

yes, thank you, i thought so 

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