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Hi Ernst and/or community. 

I have a friend with an interesting chart. In the middle of the supposed hour for her birth, Mercury changes rasi, and that would make it her AK.

She´s a painter and conservator-restorer. What factors should I consider for the latter profession? She works with old manuscripts, pergaments, handwritten books etc. Mercury for skills I guess. 3rd house I suppose. What more would you consider? 9th house for history and knowledge? She works for institutions; should they someway be manifested in the charge?

If Mercury is not her AK, then it´s Jupiter. But I guess we do need Mercury for this, don`t we?

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Mattias

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Hi Mattias,

my father is a conservator/resaturator of arts, he does paintings, wood, stone, paper and buildings. He mostly works on buildings like altars, churches or entire buildings.

His AtmaK is Mercury and AmatyaK is Mars!

He also is into politics in an advisor position on regional level.Saturn in Leo !

I can send you the chart for comparison, I do not know his lagna though!

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@sandyacc  Cool! Wonderful source of knowledge, this forum. 🙂

And yes, Mercury must be part of the story I guess. It´s just that it will come into play either way; as the AK or as her Lagna Lord and also probably conjunct a decent Sun... So the cusps will have to give the answer. 

Sure; it would be interesting to see how the cusps are connected to Mercury in your father´s chart.

Mattias

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@meyes yes, great coincidence. As mentioned afore his birth time is unknown. I am making him a Virgo Lagna so that everything I know about him makes sense. Good point what everybody said above & below, please take a look. (Sorrito, no Kala at hand.)

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@sandyacc   Thank you Sandra! That birth hour makes him a Leo Lagna in Kala, I had to adjust it with an hour. One of them is wrong, my guess is that it might be Kala. 

11th, 3rd and 10th cusp are connected to his AK Mercury. Also 6th for improving things; I would guess that we need that one too! Then whether Venus is someway activated - for refurbishing - we don´t know, since we don´t know his birthtime. It´s not his Svamsa but may still be in the pada, upapada or being the Lagna lord of course.

 

Mattias

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@meyes I checked in Ernst' s online calculator, that makes him a vir lagna for June 24 1947,noon, Poland, Klelce. No way his lagna is in leo, maby siderally, but that d be a crime, wouldn't t it ?

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@sandyacc No, it must be the ephemerids. I chose "Kielce, 84". That 84 doesn´t seem to be correct. Krakow and other Polish cities give him Virgo Lagna at 12 o´clock. 

Mattias

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@sandyacc No, it must be the ephemerids. I chose "Kielce, 84". That 84 doesn´t seem to be correct. Krakow and other Polish cities give him Virgo Lagna at 12 o´clock. 

Mattias

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Jupiter represents books, Mercury skills (but, when it comes to objects, it's more a container). So, either way you look at it, a piece is fitting. I can't believe Jaimini didn't think of that one! ???? 

I'm also wondering why you ask the question. Is it because the person wants to know if she's on the right path? Or is having issues at work? Or, are you rectifying birth time?

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@mona Trying to rectify her chart. Her Mercury is either her AK orconjunct a pretty decent Sun though, and also seems to be the Lagna Lord, so it seems to be an important player anyway... But maybe the cusps will give the answer. Not rure which one they would be though; as I said: 3rd and....?

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@meyes oh man, rectifying through profession sounds a bit daunting, especially since it's not a typical one. Any chance you can use marriage/kids birth and/or any other significant life events. With Varshaphala and transits, that should get you closer. Just a thought.

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@mona No marriage, no kids. But you are right, it´ s not gonna work, at least not from the Rasi, since Mercury will be a possibility anyway.

Maybe it´s not that important, the CoT-reading she asked for is more or less working anyway. It just seemed so tempting with two different AK-options in the middle of it.

Mattias

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Here are the charts. The time given is 18.30-19, but then she said 18-18.30, so it´s really uncertain. 19.11 the Lagna changes. But Virgo lagna seems probable.

18.48 her AK changes from Mercury to Jupiter. But a Sun in GF may be a career indicator anyway, especially since the possible AK:s (Mercury or Jupiter) are either DB or in an enemy sign. So only the cusp will answer the question - maybe.

Alex - Venus is there in any case. That goes with painting as well as refurbishing. 

Interesting to look at her CoT spread. 5 of Hearts - the struggling artist - as a Mercury card; her Ascendent and 10th cusp seems to fall there; her Jupiter and Venus in 9H Saturn card, and yes, her painting is about people, she paints native americans in an impressionistic way. Two interesting Aces for newness and refurbishing; her Sun and Moon card, the Sun card very much vibrating with her Mercury card. (AH/5H)

Mattias

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Hard to say, I´ve met her but don´t quite remember. But yes, for being a woman I think you could say that she´s squarish. Dimples I can ask about. ???? 

I really like the idea of Mercury being conjunct Jupiter and Venus, and also becoming the AK; the spread really opens up like a fan then. But it doesn´t prove anything.

Mattias

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