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Malefic in both trines- conjurer, Athara Veda book recommendation.

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teganrynne
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Hi,

I have someone in my life who has this and I have found through their stories to me that they are able to 'manifest' in their life, easier than most. Fascinating really. I would like to get them the Athara Veda book in English, is there a recommendation for the best version of this? Also- one of the malefics is Sun and it is debilitated in Libra- does this affect the manifestation of this sutra? They are AK Mercury in Gemini Swamsa, Sun in libra in 5th and saturn venus in 9th- Aquarius. Which would also mean that sun (malefic) is aspecting the 9th. Hopefully though the addition of venus to saturn being aspected would negate the malefic aspect to a malefic and they don't use the spells for evil. Thoughts?

Also, I have malefic rahu with jupiter in 5th from swamsa and then mercury solo in 9th from swamsa- but I don't think that counts for this sutra as mercury is not a malefic, correct? 

Thanks!

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Ernst Wilhelm
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I have the Whitney translation which is the standard in Veda Translations. I can't find anywhere online that has it for sale. I have never seen a book dealer in the US who has it. I picked all mine up while in india. I even checked MLBD.com which is a big hindu book dealer in india that ships to the US and even they dont have it. 

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@ernst I found a pdf version online just through a google search but as Aditya mentioned I would need to be careful with the translation as I wouldn't want to be passing on a version with corrupted meaning. I'm surprised it isn't more widely popular. Thanks anyway!

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aditya
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Also, wouldnt recommend anyone who does not know sanskrit well an atharva veda or a spell book. The reason being, a change in syllable or a mispronunciation during a chant could change the meaning. And they could literally be asking for something opposite to what they want. 

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teganrynne
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@scoobydoo totally a valid point, I hadn't even thought of that.

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I know of three people with these conjurer Yogas and I have personally witnessed two of them spontaneously manifest things in a very surprising and magical way.  When I questioned them about the phenomena, they don't seem to have a logical process, things are almost automatic, like a chemical reaction that produces a result due to the inherent nature of the elements involved and the states in which they become volatile are worked with on a very intuitive level.

Whitney translation can be found and downloaded at

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Atharva-Veda_Samhita

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teganrynne
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@quasar259 How interesting! The people who I know tend to manifest certain events or situations into their life. I don't think they know they have this ability so they are still working on it.

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@teganrynne the two I spoke of do not always use their capacities for altruistic, virtuous, creative, dharmic or helpful ends which then backfire and cause suffering to themselves and others.  It's definitely like playing with fire and along with increasing one's capacity the wisdom of its application and underlying nature of the forces involved are essential otherwise they and those who get caught up in the magic act get burned.

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Thank you for the link,  

I've been looking but I can't find if there's a chapter dedicated to HOW TO chant the hymns, could someone point me? 

Is it 108 times like mantras? should we do something before or after chanting?  

Also, the translation is there but not the actual Sanskrit transliteration, does a text like that exist? 

For people who are not into Sanskrit, could chanting in English make an effect? 

 

I stumbled upon this yesterday, she sings it so beautifully, and I'm guessing she's pronouncing it well too since no one in the comments saying anything. It looks like it's the 8th hymn of the 6th chapter "To win a woman's love": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTxM_kvhhJk   (the hymn is translated in the video's description) 

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@silvia 

not sure if this helps or relevant to chanting mantras, but there is a book written by yogananda that is available to public - scientific healing affirmations; 

it is about how to chant affirmations which can be done by anyone - even who is not into Sanskrit 

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@scoobydoo thank you, I didn't know about this book.

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