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Ramin
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Dear @ernst

Going through the course it seems to me that Planets causing bad avashtas, such as shaming or starving an other planets, actually loose their healthy habits through the avshta. For example when Moon starves Saturn or Venus, what results is not the proper habit of the Moon. What are your thoughts on this matter?

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Ernst Wilhelm
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yes, you can see it that way, it takes TWO. so wha tis happening is that we are trying to use planets together in a way tha tdoes not work. So moon'sjob is to say< I need this, and saturn's job is to say, I dont need this, and then moon looks at saturn and says, Ineed this, and saturn says, NO  you dont, and now there is conflict instead of peace. 

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hi ernst, with regard to your above answer,  is it that the moon starving Saturn avashta expresses itself inauspiciously , meaning as a bad habit, where ever saturn suppose to say NO to things, only?, or are you saying, this bad habit is going to be expressed and directed, where saturn has its influence AND also where the moon  influences (and i am not referring , with my question, to a situation where both moon and saturn influences similar cusps). or where you just saying that the interaction of those TWO planets results in a conflict but with regard to its effect, it will be directed to all that saturn influences( but not necessarily what moon influences- that was my original understanding)

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Ramin
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Dear @ernst

In this case; It's much better for a planet to cause both bad avashta,and good avashtas rather than only causing bad avashtas. because if it's only causing bad avashtas it's putting all of it's energy in bad habits and it's ruined, but if it's also causing good avashtas then it's energy is divided between bad habits and good habits.

Even though it's dasha dependent, yet the analogy still stands; because the one causing bad and good avashtas will have bad habbits in some dashas and good habits in some others, but the other one will not have any dasha when it acts in good habits.

I've observed this in some charts but not enough to be 90% sure. what do you think?

 

 

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@ramin nice! i don't know if i heard it before in some video or i just feel it, but would like to check it with you both; the strongest avashta is a planet creating, is where this planet is focusing more his attention, looking at? so if Moon is helping the Sun to 200 points - lets say - and Mars to 300p but starving Saturn to 350p; you also think/feel she is going to be more centerd in Saturn than others avashtas its making?

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@ramin yes, very true, and once the bad avastha is solved, the good avastha becomes fully available as a good foundation for the person.

 

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Yes, very true

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