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Silvia
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Hi @ernst, thank you so much for the PAC course, truly amazing stuff. 

After listening to the therapy examples you gave to access the unconscious child mind, I'm thinking that selecting Bach Flower remedies looking at the chart from the Chandra Lagna might be a great way to access and heal the unconscious, specially if the person is ruled by the child mind, or their psychological and physical illnesses stem from there. 

It's so tricky to actually get into the subconscious when you are in a state of not feeling good, restless or depressed, that anything that can be done without much effort could be of great help.

Some flowers I've always thought I needed, but since they didn't make sense for my chart from the lagna, I prioritised others; now if I look from my Chandra Lagna... there they are!

I'm excited to try this. 

Thanks again for all the videos

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Hi @silvia, where do you get the Bach flowers - could you share a link or store? 

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@healthy_living hi, I've always bought this brand: https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/bach-original-flower-remedies-larch-60089831 at my closest health food store, I've never ordered them online. If you buy online make sure they come sealed and they are original.

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@silvia Since you mentioned about using Chandra Lagna, it seems you are using Bach flowers based on houses instead of signs? I am curious to know how do you go about using Bach based on houses

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@qwertym2 Hi, yes I do both cusps and signs. I actually think the cusp shows up more prominently, it's what the person complains about the most, so that's my priority and then the sign.

Ernst table is a good starting point, so for the line that says Cancer, for example: which is Mustard, Red Chestnut, Sweet Chestnut I use these when the 4th cusp is afflicted, or the Moon is afflicted, mostly never all 3 at once. And like that for all other cusps: Aries line of remedies for 1st cusp, etc

Info on the flowers found online is mostly repetitive and surface level, they say the same thing about each remedy over and over again, I recommend you learn about the plant from a botanist and then you'll really get what the remedy is about

Information like this is priceless, this if for Agrimony, for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7y44f-1tIg&t=877s&ab_channel=SchoolofEvolutionaryHerbalism

 

Due to the scarce information, many flowers get underused... for example Sweet Chestnut, which Ernst very wisely put in the Cancer line of remedies, is used when the person is in an emotional breakdown, about to harm themselves even, which is true, but it's also a big tree (trees give energy, shrubs don't) so it should be used way more frequently for when people have no energy due to emotional heartbreak, you don't need to be on the verge of a complete breakdown to use it. If you take the common known description of flowers, you'd think you need Olive for lack of energy, but that won't hit the spot.

Bach Flowers needs a lot of development, Edward Bach died young, so he started it, but it's on us to build upon. It's not an easy therapy system to master, but when you hit the right mix, it's like magic. It's the 2nd course I took from Ernst back in 2016, he did a wonderful job with the table. Even when I learn from other Bach flower specialists the table still holds up, so start with that.

 

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@silvia Thank you so much for replying so thoughtfully and elaborately. I have been using Ernst's table for a while using the rasis and only recently started using Ernst table based on the houses and it does seem to be working.

One question though - any particular reason you don't use  Mustard, Red Chestnut, Sweet Chestnut all at once when 4th cusp/house or Moon is afflicted?

Curious to know how your experiment with Chandra Lagna goes; I have Sa-Mo conjunction without any conjunct cusp 🙂 Best of luck!

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@qwertym2 The reason is that I only put 7 flowers in a remedy, and one of the is almost always Star of Bethlehem, so that leaves me with only 6 spots, and if the person is in need of Sweet Chestnut, chances are Mustard is too light of a remedy at that stage, Mustard is a weed, it's not something like Cherry Plum which is a catalyst, or Gorse that's gonna help the body get out of shut-down mode and make the mix more effective, this is good tip: If you're not responding to a mix as well as you thought, include Gorse.

I'd also choose Gentian over Mustard at that severe stage. But maybe as a "maintenance" mix Mustard is what they need. It really depends on the person's chart.

Good luck to you too!

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That's great Silvia, let us know how those work. 

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