Just to share a story from a friend who had Saturn mars conjunct. And indeed he would always fix something that he would then get annoyed with and break, in this case his phone. I would joke with him about it, I didn't know astrology back then. But I noticed he would waste his time fixing things that would annoyed him so much at some point he would just throw it on the ground. Hundred of dollars and time wasted. I used to feel a bit lazy around that, because he would always take the hard work and I would just not do that at all, felt like cheating compared to him.
I’ve recently been curious about how a conjunction between Saturn and Mars might influence an individual’s sexual behavior, particularly in men (though it could apply to women as well). I wonder if individuals with this conjunction experience a form of inhibition or restraint in their sexuality—perhaps finding it challenging to express their desires freely, losing a sense of spontaneity, or approaching sexuality in a more controlled or detached manner. Could this aspect even lead to the suppression or careful control of sexual expression?
I saw one chart of a man Libra lagna with Ma and Sa in Cancer. He is into BDSM. It ended his first marriage too. I think Ma Sa can create intense perversions in some cases. He also has a very controlling nature, and sneakily bullish, hyper masculine. Sun in 8th house in Taurus too. I think there must be other things going on to contribute to this.
He also had Ju and Ve in Pisces in the 6th which adds to animalistic libido.
@tamarap I have watch a few people in my Dance class with this position or Saturn in Scorpio or Saturn influence Mars somehow. But when in conjunction they tend to be seen as very "reliable", maybe like most "feminist" would want you to behave (so easy to get along like Ernst Said). I have one teacher with that conjunction in Virgo, it's helped a bit though, and he is a control freak on sexual behaviour I think. Though he goes around nicely with a nice speech also (very good at communication) and because Jupiter is there also.
So from time to time I see that Mars Saturn restriction and sometimes the Jupiter influence on Mars. So he is open and sometimes restricted sexually. At times it felt like you have no right to even find a woman pretty and to ask to dance with her. At other times it was okay, so it was ON and OFF, Jupiter then Saturn.
It seems to make him very popular but also tiring even to me with the huge amount of patience I have when I'm learning something. But he was one of the teacher that I learn from.
I think he had a hard time dealing with people with Mars in combustion. As those would most often be very pushy, woman or men, though depending on the other planetary placement it can be very under the radar also, so less obvious. I have seen those that usually get wild in class. Usually they have Sun near Rahu like trump or Mars near Rahu or Mars combust. Sun Saturn the center of attention, a lot of teacher have that it seems but hard to deal with their ego needs but people don't usually notice it at first, it takes them a while to figure it out. So I think the most obvious sexual openness comes from Rahu Mars, Mars combust, Sun Rahu or a combination of those. Those are the jerks usually, prone to be very aggressive but doesn't last long I think. I usually have more fun with them. But it can back fire also.
Saturn in Aries or Mars Saturn I think it's more the sneaky under cover behaviour that sometimes get overbearing but you never see that publicly I think unless you are very lucky and they breakdown. I have a long time friend with Saturn in Aries and I have never seem him breakdown or show weakness when I'm with him, but he did told me many stories when he would get into a fist of anger around people. Though I did see him get wild also but he would always back down, even to me and I was 20 years younger at least than him. So he would complain, get angry but always trying to hide it or suppress the anger, he was a martial artist and also body guard, and he would ask me to deal with problems when he was angry at a restaurant for example. I never did martial art by the way.
I also knew a guy working security at clubs in Australia, Saturn mars conjunction also. A very nice guy most would call him. But I think he was seing himself as a nice guy that can't get lucky with women, so he wasn't satisfied sexually I think.
Moon Rahu the guy that sleep with women most often or that is very popular but in dark vibe, and darker vibe with Rahu moon Saturn. Narrowing on psychopath or with a lot of manipulation with Saturn Rahu moon.
@lorris it´s interesting what you says about a Saturn influenced Mars creating sneakiness. I have Saturn in Aries and woke up this morning fully aware about my sneakiness, like never before. And then I read this, hm... I will have to let that sink in.
If you have more to say about this I´m interested. Let´s see... restrictions put on the child mind... Yeah, it creates sneakiness, I agree. The child mind looks for ways out in a hidden way.
Staffan
I have Mars-Saturn conjunction. I was a sports freak for quite some time when I was younger, preferred endurance sports, specially nordic skiing.
At 16, my resting heart rate was under 30, it's documented. In some sports enthusiasts, the heart rate goes quite low, which also shows the ability to work.
When I graduated from university, I wrote my thesis in 7.5 days without a single second of sleep. I didn't sleep for a second.
Quite a lot of capacity, if the plans are fixed at the thought level.
I think I have a slightly different sense of time or attitude to time compared to many others.
@ayan Interesting. One of my sons has Sa/Ma in the 5th. He plays the battery and is good at it. Obviously the Moon is the primary indicator for rhythm, but then there is timing too... What you said made me think.
I checked out Ringo Starr, famous for his steady pace, and he does not have the conjunction though... Buddy Ritch and Art Blakey both had the conjunction though! Jeff Porcaro did not.
Staffan
@ayan It's interesting that you should mention this. I know of an NHL player who it has been shared in the media has a resting heart rate of about 35. They joke that he's not a man, but a machine. He's 37 years old and considered a generational talent. I checked his chart, there is no Mars-Saturn conjunction, however he does have a Venus-Mercury-Sun-Mars conjunction in Leo.
There are many things at play here it seems. Jupiter or Mars, Saturn, I'm not sure. I have done a lot of endurance sports in my life also. I think I like endurance sports because I could work alone on my skills. I did rest a lot though probably my strong Saturn in Aquarius or Mars in Cap in my D9.
I have watch a lot my "friends" who wouldn't sleep at school, I would wonder how they would even watch the teacher speak while in school (Mars the ability to focus with the eyes and resting those eyes). Some of them would be half asleep most of the time the morning. I don't think once I ever did that in school, I would always rest a lot. I actually hated to lose control, so I was a control freak but the other way around.
The last 5 years or so I would experiment to understand better how people experience reality when they lack sleep. Also maybe to learn if my way of never missing sleep could be detrimental to my progress. So from time to time I would not sleep on purpose to see how I would behave like that. And it help me I think to understand better what it feels like but it didn't seem really healthy from my point of view to do that often. So through out my life until now I didn't see my school mates lack of sleep at school as a healthy thing to do. But it didn't prevent them from succeeding at school but they were in my opinion seen as less reliable by most teacher.
I remember at 12 during my first Rahu vimshottari Dasa, one of my sport teacher said to the class, be more like Lorris, he is 'very serious' or something like that I don't remember exactly. I didn't understood really what he is was saying at that time. I didn't see understand what he was seeing in me, but that was probably that strong Saturn influence. I didn't want anyone to know I was serious though but I did like that he appreciated my behaviour though, so maybe the proud Saturn was showing off. I think it can be hard to understand how Saturn can be proud about being humble, it seems contradictory.
I also think many people doesn't understand who I am until they see the Saturn influence and it takes time maybe to notice it.
https://www.imdb.com/search/name/?birth_date=1980-06-01,1980-07-01
a month with Mars Saturn conjunction in virgo, can be interesting to study.
One of the first result is a woman who plays in Games of thrones, she plays a whore in the serie, she has Moon with rahu in Leo, And that Same Saturn Mars Jupiter conjunction.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1402546/
Most results seem to indicate "nice guys" though, unless other things are added on top of it, like a moon rahu conjunction for example.
Another month here in 1986, conjunction happens in Sag:
https://www.imdb.com/search/name/?birth_date=1986-02-01,1986-03-01