Saturn and Pluto are shifting signs (tropically) this month. Does anyone know how to find the last time Saturn & Pluto changed signs in the same month? Seems like a pretty rare phenomenon.
Hi @Scott-M-19,
I was curious so I searched the transits.
This thing surely seems pretty rare.
In 100 years, it looks like is happening only 2 times. 2% of the time.
From 1900-2000
07 Oct 1937 Pl ingress Leo
18 Oct 1937 Sa ingress Pisces
10 Oct 1956 Sa ingress Sag
20 Oct 1956 Pl ingress Virgo
From 2000-2100
07 Mar 2023 Sa ingress Pisces
23 Mar 2023 Pl ingress Aquarius
21 Sep 2095 Pl ingress Aries
26 Sep 2095 Sa ingress Virgo
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If we think flexible, we could add 1 more event for each century and that makes it 3%
Some exceptions worth noting;
(14 Jun 1939 Pl ingress Leo)
(06 Jul 1939 Sa ingress Tau) within 22 days
(19 Jan 2044 Pl ingress Pisces)
(21 Feb 2044 Sa ingress Sag) within 33 days
Wikipedia gives the historical world events monthly and even on a daily basis. I checked them 1 month prior and after the months in question. There were mostly tough but also some little nice things happening at those times. Worth the read.
Thank you for pointing out the question.
Zumrut
Thank you for this info.
I thought it would be even more rare.
are any of those dates you gave when either Saturn or Pluto were Retrograding back into a sign?
Also, did you search this in kala?
@scott-m-19 Yes, Kala ‘Search Transits’, chose Sa & Pl only and on the right end ‘ingresses Rasi’ option. Date range 1900-2100.
I was excited so didn’t pay much attention for the Retrogrades, you could also select the retrograde option before the search.
I’d be happy to know about your findings, if you’d like.
Thank you
Zumrut
Is there any way to use the 'Search Transits' in Kala where you can simply see both Saturn and Pluto ingressing into a sign within the same time frame (this case a month) instead of sorting through a gigantic list of all the ingresses between them?
I was searching between a 500 year span of all the ingresses. A bit much to sort through!
@scott-m-19 I've checked and couldn't find a better option. I also tried to convert the pdf (of the search) to excel and then word, so that there could be a way to sort it out, perhaps make a pivot table or something. But the data comes out like 3 or 4 columns in 1 row, which makes it even more difficult to clean.
If you would like, I can share half of the data and look into it manually. 250 years for each of us. What do you say?
Zumrut
I think I will pass on that offer. Just too focused on other things right now and demands that are grabbing my attention. I posted to maybe see if anyone new a way to find out how often this occurrence is or has any insights. You first post was helpful.
Thanks for your attempts though!
Maybe some sort of AI can find this out??