Tks a lot Ernst!
the question is: in core yogas compare two kemadruma, if the second " DASA INDEPENDENT FOUNDATION YOGAS " is canceled, also the first(with ketu o rahu) did it cancel?
Kemadruma Yogas [First]
The Moon with Rahu or Ketu, and aspected by a malefic.
"One is bereft of health, wealth, learning, wisdom, spouse, children, and mental peace. One suffers misery, failure, and humiliation."
These are additional Kemadruma Yogas, harming the Moon, that indicate negative attitudes, worry, depression and a mentality of despair, or the inability to fulfill one's goals and desires. The dasas of these Kemadruma Yoga forming planets are periods of fall, poor success, inconsistencies, and great struggles. Natives have been seen to struggle for their very basic existence when the dasas of these Kemadruma Yoga forming planets run. In the horoscopes of natives with powerful wealth and success producing yogas, these Kemadruma Yogas indicate the periods of fall or losses in wealth. Since the Moon influences the social life, the Moon's affliction in these Kemadruma Yogas causes the native to be humiliated, disrespected, or to fall from social grace. An important point regarding these Kemadruma Yogas is that if the planets forming these yogas are also forming success-producing yogas, then success will still be produced, but the native will still suffer some significant miserable experiences.
DASA INDEPENDENT FOUNDATION YOGAS
Kemadruma Yoga [Second]
If Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yogas are not present, Kemadruma Yoga is formed.
"One born in Kemadruma Yoga, though born in a princely race, becomes obscure, inimically disposed, miserable, reproached; and bereft of intelligence and learning. Given to base ways and wickedly inclined, one falls from his religion. One is reduced to penury and perils, drudging as a menial and wandering, as well as being deprived of livelihood, wife, children, residence, robes, friends, food and drink. The native will suffer extreme difficulties, sickness and filthiness."
Kemadruma Yogas are amongst the worse yogas that ruin a horoscope, making it difficult for the native to actualize anything of benefit in their lives. Amongst Kemadruma Yogas this one is perhaps the worst and one of the two of greatest importance. The Moon is a very fickle and unsteady planet that rules the mind. It is important that a planet besides the Sun, Rahu or Ketu is in the 2nd or 12th from the Moon in order to lend some firmness, stability and direction to the mind, which is necessary in order for the native to succeed with any vision that they may have. Failing this, the mind remains unanchored and becomes a source of trouble. Fortunately there are several factors that cancel this terrible form of Kemadruma Yoga, which are being given in order of significance:
A planet, other than the Sun, Rahu or Ketu in an angle (including the 1st) from the Moon.
This is the most significant Kemadruma Yoga cancellation. The planet on an angle from the Moon serves to stabilize and focus the mind. A planet in the 4th or 10th from the Moon does this particularly and is the next best thing to having a planet in the 2nd or 12th. In fact similar effects as Anapha, Sunapha and Durudhara Yogas are said to occur if the 4th and 10th houses from the Moon are occupied by any of Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or Saturn, and some astrologers actually consider these yogas to be formed by planets in the 4th and 10th from the Moon, though they are not considered authoritative. These planets in the 4th and 10th house from the Moon will influence the native less than when in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon, but if there are none of these planets in the 2nd or 12th from the Moon, then any of these planets in the 4th or 10th become very significant and important.
In all cases when there is Kemadruma Yoga and its cancellation, it is not as beneficial as having one of Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yoga. When one of these yogas is present the native maintains poise and equilibrium when confronted by new experiences, the Lunar Yoga forming planets in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon ground and stabilize the native. When there are no planets in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon the native has nothing solid to react upon when confronted by new experiences and it takes them a moment to get centered. In this case, if the resulting Kemadruma Yoga is cancelled, the planets canceling the Kemadruma Yoga are what the native relies upon in order to catch their balance. The norm and average is for Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yoga not to be present, but for the resulting Kemadruma Yoga to be cancelled. When Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yogas are found, consider them to be a benefit to the horoscope.
A planet, other than the Sun, Rahu or Ketu, in the 2nd or 12th rasi from the rasi of the Moon's navamsa.
As an example, if the Moon is in the navamsa of Aries, one of Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or Saturn in Pisces or Taurus in the Rasi would cancel Kemadruma Yoga. Some sources actually consider the planets in the 2nd and 12th rasi from the Moon's navamsa to form Anapha, Sunapha and Durudhara Yogas. These planets will, however, give somewhat lesser Lunar Yoga effects than planets that are actually placed in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon.
In all cases when there is Kemadruma Yoga and its cancellation, it is not as beneficial as having one of Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yoga. When one of these yogas is present the native maintains poise and equilibrium when confronted by new experiences, the Lunar Yoga forming planets in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon ground and stabilize the native. When there are no planets in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon the native has nothing solid to react upon when confronted by new experiences and it takes them a moment to get centered. In this case, if the resulting Kemadruma Yoga is cancelled, the planets canceling the Kemadruma Yoga are what the native relies upon in order to catch their balance. The norm and average is for Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yoga not to be present, but for the resulting Kemadruma Yoga to be cancelled. When Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yogas are found, consider them to be a benefit to the horoscope.
Any planet, other than Rahu or Ketu, on an angle from the lagna.
Any planet on an angle serves to focus and direct the native; therefore, these planets can avert the troublesome effects of Kemadruma Yoga. Mentally, however, the native will be somewhat fickle and unfocused.
In all cases when there is Kemadruma Yoga and its cancellation, it is not as beneficial as having one of Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yoga. When one of these yogas is present the native maintains poise and equilibrium when confronted by new experiences, the Lunar Yoga forming planets in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon ground and stabilize the native. When there are no planets in the 2nd and 12th from the Moon the native has nothing solid to react upon when confronted by new experiences and it takes them a moment to get centered. In this case, if the resulting Kemadruma Yoga is cancelled, the planets canceling the Kemadruma Yoga are what the native relies upon in order to catch their balance. The norm and average is for Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yoga not to be present, but for the resulting Kemadruma Yoga to be cancelled. When Anapha, Sunapha or Durudhara Yogas are found, consider them to be a benefit to the horoscope.
The Moon being full.
In the event that the Moon is bright (when it is a benefic) the serious negativity of Kemadruma Yoga are avoided. The mind will be fickle and less focused than ideal, but it will not be so full of unfulfilled longings that it will completely disrupt life or not contribute to any growth.
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Nicola
NO, the dasa type of kemedruma is never cancelled, it just gives its effects in the dasa.
Can The Kemadruma DASA INDEPENDENT FOUNDATION YOGAS be cancelled if there are planets, other than the Sun, Rahu or Ketu in an angle (including the 1st) from the Moon, in debilitation or bad disposed?
Yes, its cancelled no matter the dignitiy, etc of the canceling planet.