I got Saturn in Dhaataa and I know Ernst said to elaborate on others charts first but I would have to like some clarity on that because I cannot find it to be fitting for me. So I work in tech support for an Internet company for three years now. And I am doing an excellent job. So i support very well in that area. But I am not taking pride in that, I just love to do a good job. In other areas in my life as well there is no pathological way that I play saviour for someone or something like this nor is there a way I exploit someone. I am not in a relationship right now but in the past I was not a bury to them and I connt find my foundation to be pathological ill. Sure everyone has traumata to some extend but like I was breastfeeded my parents are together nothing really damaging there. Also Lorris talked in the second live in the course about Saturn in Dhaataa being a person who exploits the planet and would leave for another to exploit at any time possible and I always said I love mother earth and would like to get reincarnated here over and over again. I sure like to be the best but I would attest that to a combust Mars with Sun and Jupiter in tropical Capricon. I am the best salesman from several hundred employees in my company and I support my colleages by instructing them on how to do sales but again I do not take pride in being the main guy who lifts them up and they themselves are not capable of doing that, I dont see it that way. But I am doin a great job in supporting them resulting in them making a lot more money themselves and also the company. So i cannot see the descriptions of saturn in dhaataa for me and if anyone feels competent to speak about my chart I would be very pleased to hear. I would also like to pay money if someone wants to do a zoom reading but I thought I also post it here since we are in that elaboration phase and an open dialogue or explanation would benefit others, too. Feel free to ask me questions about anything. Thanks!
Mercury and Venus are the auspicious planets for your lagna and they are forming raj yoga. What I see is that you do what you are devoted to, which definitely makes me for an easier path. Your 6th and 8th are interchanged but I don’t remember if this is even bad (or good). I would rewatch the parivartana video on that. Your mars may even be helping your Saturn to some degree. It’s at least helping dhataa some. Your Venus really shines in this rasi though. And it’s helping your mercury a lot by leading you to your devotion. Your upload is too blurry for me to read the smaller charts
by the way my baby also has Saturn in dhaataa and arrow yoga. Sometimes something happens outside of the mother’s control. I breastfeed, cosleep, have an exalted Mars in rasi and navamsa and being a mother is my only focus (until I decided to study again after he turned 1), but he was taken from me literally from my uterus without my full consent. It really comes down to fate I guess.
@karinia Hm yes but 6/8 interchange is described by Ernst as really devistating and I would suppose what ever good is going on in my chart should not change the saturn thing in a big way or at least it should be recognisable. Yes I agree a Mother ist most important but you really have to be on guard and cant prevent every bad thing, that would be too much also probably. It would have been nice if I wasnt vaccinated though but yeah cant expect everybody to not trust the doctors. With 10 years I said no myself firmly 😀
I'm wondering how you relate to Mars starving Saturn and if you see that at all in yourself?
@josh Hm would not come to mind how but I must admit that I could also not think of a proper description for that I am thinging of the brakes and acceleration picture or fixing broken things but wouldnt find that fitting for me
On a concrete level your Dhata is being manifested by its lord Mars and by Jupiter; Sun isn't really a manifestor, but it is exalted in Dhata as the prime foundation of this existence, so I can't see that hurting.
The consciousness of Saturn is not only flowing through the sign of Dhata but also through his signs Bhaga and Pusha as well. Your Saturn signs seem to be in better shape than they aren't. Sun is being starved by Saturn due to sign placement, but Ernst has said this isn't pathological. Otherwise, there is only agitation by the Sun on Mars and Jupiter, but there is a lot of delight there. All three of those planets are mutual friends, so they are all delighting each other.
These are both strong mitigating factors for the base interpretation of Saturn in Dhata.
Ernst describes 6-8 parivartana as a misery yoga. "Obstacles cause bigger breaks, breaks cause bigger obstacles." Also says that it could indicate chronic diseases. With Mars starving Saturn that is a possible indication as well, that the body doesn't take care of what is truly needs to take care of. Weakness become much bigger than expected. Check out video 2 in the parivartana yoga course (6th house interchanges); he starts talking about 6-8 at 18:25. What do you think about that? Does if it fit at all for you?
@josh Yes I watched that before and also had struggles with that one to see in me because I had a few shitty years but that was always totally on me and I was really guided and lucky through my misery and when I changed it all worked really well and now I am very happy and also before when I has obstacles or misfortune life was really generous with me and spared me of much worse outcomes possible. I have some chroni-sh ailments but eat my mostly vegan organic meals and workout and nothing major so my body is strong and i also never head a broken bone and my fitness scale tells me i have very good bone mass so cant attest to saturn dhaata there neither. I can see other adityas fitting for me but that one not. I will still learn though I like the videos and maybe I can see it with the other factors later
Also, your navamsha ascendant is Dhata and you have a parivartana yoga there between the 7th and the 9th, which to me speaks to you helping your colleagues in the way you do.