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Scott-M-19
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Hi Ernst, I saw this on Ryan Kurczak's site. He is quoting you saying:

“Sri Yuktesvar never used the ayanamsa named after him. When he wrote the Holy Science and talked about the Yugas he used Mean Motions of the precession, which is 24000 years, just like Manu Samhita uses the same mean motions. Talking in mean motions makes truth for all time. However, in this particular cycle, it will take 25600 years for the equinoxes to progress through the zodiac. And Sri Yuktesvar knew this of course as it was known during that time. He then goes on to say that the revati star marks the first point of sidereal aries, which is what the galactic center middle of mula ayanamsa comes to by the way. The then uses mean motions to arrive at a revati position that is not true from observation, but true from a mean motion point of view. Yuktesvar was not talking about precession in respect to astrologers calculating an ayanamsa, but about mean motions of the great cycle. Readers did not understand this and so derived an ayanamsa based on mean motions in his book – not what he intended. But that is the norm, people take wise words and do the unintentional with them....

...One thing that has to be kept in mind is that no star marks the ayanamsa. Ancients just used stars as reference points, Yukteswar actually said 10 mintues from Revati. But now that we have discovered the galactic center we can use what is actually fixed, the galactic center. NO stars are really fixed, they all move, decay, burn out, etc. Only the GC, the galactic center, will be here through the entirety of our galaxy’s existence. But the dhruva galactic center middle of Mula ayanamsa is marked by Revati, the star chosen by Sri Yuktesvar.”

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You still hold this perspective that Yukteswar never used the ayanamsa that people use in his name? 
 
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This is my understanding of Dhruva GC ayanamsha, which I had confirmed with Ernst once (and he agreed)

Dhruva Galactic Center: the Galactic Center and Celestial North Pole are taken as two points of a circle, and where this circle intersects the ecliptic is the Middle of Mula. 
 
 
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@leela 

Thanks, that is helpful. However I posted this not about the Dhruva Galactic Center Middle of Mula ayanamsa, but to get clarity that Yukteswar himself never used the ayanamsa that people named after him. I always had the thought that even though people used one in his name, I always wondered the history of this and where it came from. 

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@scott-m-19 - yeh this is interesting because I know Yogananda devotees who use the Sri Yukteswar ayanamsha believing it to be his, but it sounds like Yukteswar perhaps used the tropical zodiac? 

I'd be interested to hear what Ernst has to say.

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we don't know what zodiac or ayanamsa Sri Yuktesvar used. We only know that he advocated tropical sankranti's at a time in India when everyone used sidereal. He did also say that after his death tropical sankranti's would be determined as correct by India, and that happened in 1951, though most people do not follow it, legally, tropical sankranti's were chosen as correct by the astronomers the government got together for that purpose. But whether Sri Yuktesvar used tropical rasis or not for reading charts, we have no idea. He was WELL known as an astrologer in his area, in fact, he was known as an astrologer by most and not as a guru. He devoted much of his time to astrology and look at everything through the lens of astrology. Its unfortunate that his most famous student, Yogananda, did not have any interest in astrology as that has left us without any information about what Sri Yuktesvar was doing.  

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@ernst Of topic, I understand that the question was about Yuktesvara Ayanamsa but reading the above I would like to know which Galactic Center Ayanamsa you use or whats the difference because in Kala there are 3? Druva-Galactic Center middle of Mula, Galactic Center middle of Mula, Druva-Galactic Center-Mula/Wilhelm.

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Dhruva Galactic center middle of mula is what I recommend. 

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