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nikhil.ranka
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Hello @ernst,

Had always wanted to approach astrology from a logical and experiential perspective. And the videos about Astronomy on this site certainly helped in that regard.

Wanted to gain a deeper understanding of the Astronomical calculations. 

1. What is the Astronomical basis of planetary aspects, if any? Why do different planets have different aspects?

2. How many Zodiac signs exist? Some recent publications report there are 13 (link does not hold Astrology in high regards though). Does it change anything?

3. Is there anything in the visible spectrum or detectable by device that can help understand why certain elements like Air, Water, Space etc are assigned to certain signs? Of course, not everything that exists is detectable by a machine. Similarly what about Nakshatras and their elements

And many more.

Looking forward to your response.

Thanks!

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nikhil.ranka
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Hello, @ernst your response to the above query would be helpful.

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There are 12 signs. This idea of a 12th sign is based on random astronomical patterns in the sky made by stars that have nothing at all to do with astrology. The 12 signs are simply the 12 solar months. The reason there are 12 is that there are four definable points of the sun's motion around the earth, the two equinoxes and two solstices marking the 4 quarters, and each of these quarters is divided into three parts by the sun moon conjunctions that happen in each of these quarters. 

It's hard to know what the basis is of planetary aspects and why the planets outside the earth's orbit have different aspects. There SHOULD be an astronomical basis for them, but as yet, its undiscovered. One person told me that there are two moons of Jupiter that are always 120 degrees from each other and thus the trine aspects, but I am not sure if this is correct or not. 

No, we do nto have devices that detect the magnetic spectrum that astrology works on. 

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Posted by: @ernst

One person told me that there are two moons of Jupiter that are always 120 degrees from each other and thus the trine aspects, but I am not sure if this is correct or not. 

That's an interesting insight.

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No, we do nto have devices that detect the magnetic spectrum that astrology works on. 

Certainly, something that influences our life should leave some imprint in the material/manifest reality and therefore detectable too. Of course, the non-existence of a device to detect something cannot negate the existence of that. 

In the astrological traditions were there methods taught to make one sensitive to the planetary forces?

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@nikhil-ranka ITs not that there were astrological traditions of that, simply its a human abilty to understand what it contemplates. How great this ability is depends on the evolution of the person. So any rishi could contemplate astronomy and arrive at the truth of it.

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Certainly @ernst.

At the outset, the question of 'how' this field of study came into existence might not appear useful, but knowing that can change our approach towards Astrology. Was it a result of observation done over years, or was this knowledge 'received'? If it was a result of observation, then what role could planets have played in the observation itself and as a result impacted the quality of it. On the other hand if it was 'received', was it because of those individuals being special or being more perceptive by their own effort (both might the same). 

There's a high chance of this being received. During many experiments, birds' abilities to tune themselves into magnetic fields on the earth to aid their migration has been recorded. Probably humans have some more evolved but unutilized organs of perception that allowed them to understand the influence of the Grahas. This could certainly be the case.

Understanding the influence of the Sun and the Moon, particularly the Sun is simple. And aligning with them is not only useful but important too.

However, have noticed very few astrologers demonstrate this. It's mainly about logical rules and mathematical calculations - of course, they are of utility. But why not tap into something deeper that is already available? Probably this is why despite such evolved methods of computing the positions of Grahas and other bodies the probable outcomes remain unknown for most?

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