I watched the video on Usha Vance yesterday, in which Ernst talks about the Aditya Pusha and it´s capacity for active non-action, basically to sit on a stone waiting for the right moment to take action. With my DB Saturn I often lack patience and tend to go to far ahead, but in one specific area I´ve always been quite patient: Spirituality and the ockult. Although I´ve lived in an environment that constantly offers ceremonies, sweatlodges, master plants etc in abundance, I have never felt tempted to chase any of it, nor have I ever felt any desperation for to learn the ockult sciences at a higher pace than the natural. Now to my question: Pusha is my 8th house. But I have no planets in it, and it´s lord is the very same debilitated Saturn that I mentioned.
Can a house have this effect, although it doesn´t have any grahas in it, nor having a Lord pointing in that
direction?
In D-9 it´s also the 8th house, and also has no grahas in it. The Lord Saturn is in neutral dignity there.
I guess the same principles apply to both our normal astrology to the one, based on the adityas, that Ernst has started teaching now.
My 12th lord Venus is in the 9th and in GF dignity, maybe that contributes, although it has nothing to do with Pusha.
Staffan
Hi, maybe occult can become an addiction, he mentions eating too much or being able to rely on no food, in the context of the 8th would be eating too much spirituality 😀 spiritual food. My dad often talked about that, and clearly he was way too much focused on it to the point he was forgetting about real life, same card as you by the way 5 of club. I think many of us can do that, me included 🤔
@lorris Well... Pusha would be the opposite of that, if I understand it correctly. Small needs. So don´t follow your thoughts on this, I´m afraid.
As for 5 of Clubs though - sure! Our first task in the developing phase of the spread, that begins with Saturn, is to let go of 9C. Anything idealistic, basically every "true" concept of the world. 5C:s who don´t do that can be very intolerant and dogmatic, which is exactly the opposite of what they are here to learn, as I understand it. Rahu in that card (the 7th) is not a good thing, for example. I was about to say the Sun too, but that never happens.
I would even go so far as to say that 5C might be the card that is most prone to dogmatism of all the cards. Maybe the other fives - except for 5S, which is more internal - are equally bad in that sense; 5D can be quite stubborn too, that I know for sure; I have one in my family... I mean, after all it´s the judgment/justice cards that we are talking about; number 5; Jupiter´s number, the number of free will; which way will it go, towards the light or towards the darkness? So 5C is challenged by life in exactly that spot. It has the potental for complete surrender, complete liberation, through mastering the 9C on the Saturn position - giving up every dogmatic concept about the world - and 9S on the Rahy position - completely killing their ego. After having done that, what´s left, really. Nothing. But that´s in theory; how many Five of Clubs are capable of actually doing it? Until then there will always be some degree of intolerance and dogmatism, I believe.
But maybe I misunderstood you... You spoke more about overindulge in spirituality. I don´t know if that´s possible to do, but to be overly idealistic or wrapped up in our own ideas of the world - 9C - for sure.
Staffan