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rryanr
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Although I was triggered by his globe-earth assumptions, here is a talk relevant to the topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYpj3ZpmSg

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Ernst Wilhelm
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The surya siddhanta gives a day count that is probably the oldest and most reliable calendar. However, the hindus have messed this calendar up during the dark ages and astrology still suffers from that. In even in this there are two versions of surya siddhanta, one has the days 28 days different which would mean that the lord of the month would be off by 28 out of 30 days, the lord of the year would be off by 28 out of 365 days but that the lord of the day, the weekday, would be the same because 28 is divisible by 7. Also, the norse culture and the indian culture weekdays lined up so its most likely we can at least trust that. It's a hard thing to fuck up a seven-day week. It's an equally hard thing to fuck up when the sun moves north, but the Indians have managed to do that by over 3 weeks celebrating this on Jan 14 instead of Dec 21 even though the indian govt said in 1951 that dec 21 was the correct day, the public kept the erroneous tradition that started about 1500 years before when the hindu's started to calculate this sidereally due to loosing the knowledge of precession during that time. 

 

What out for what psuedo astronomers say who do not understand spherical astronomy and tell you that the earth is flat or that the moon does not cause solar eclipses. 

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Kaspar
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@ernst 

For some time i’ve been contemplating the origins of weekdays and how they are determined. I've learned that the sequence of weekdays correlates with the order of planets in the Hora, starting from sunrise. However, I'm curious about the historical basis that starts this sequence and is there a basis that defines each day of the week—what makes a Sunday a Sunday, for example? Has there ever been a first Sunday?

Both Western and Vedic traditions agree on the current weekday sequence, suggesting a common root. According to the Surya Siddhanta, this root lies in calculations tied to the beginning of the Kali Yuga, which admittedly can be complex to grasp.
As you've discussed previously, the calculations of the Yugas should be done according to Sri Yukteswar. Have you explored establishing a starting point for weekdays based on such calculations? Is there a course that breaks down this topic into more understandable terms?

Just as you have shown that Nakshatras align with the galactic center and the zodiac with the equinoxes, weekdays likely have an astronomical basis. Considering a day as Earth's rotation on its axis, it seems plausible that a starting point would relate to the progression of the Earth's axis, perhaps at the midpoint of Kali Yuga as 0, marking the first Sunday.

I'm also curious if anyone knows the ancient basis on which Western astrology relates to weekdays.

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@kaf It could also be that humans have attributed the weekdays to the planets and that they just accept it.

As it works with saints, to my belief: The devotional energy charges them and gives them their power.

Staffan

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Kaspar
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@staffan

The Lord of the Day, Month, and Year plays an important role in KalaBala calculations, which are part of the broader Shadbala framework. This influence impacts the strength of a planet, indicating that these designations are not arbitrary.

Moreover, rituals or remedies are often advised to commence on specific days, suggesting a connection to planetary influences on those days.

It's intriguing that despite the widespread agreement on the current weekday worldwide, its origin remains somewhat mysterious.

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rryanr
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@ernst Thank you for replying.

It was one of your free core/fundamental videos that revealed to me how complicated bhava deliniation is precisely because of changes in perspective--spherical geometry. Indeed, it is because the celestial sphere is observer-dependent.

I feel myself in a strange nexus, stuck between two worlds, unable to communicate with either.

On the one hand, I appreciate that sextant angles are measured from level water, making the lat-long system of navigation in reality a flat-earth one. It is a subtle but magnificent trick to project these measures onto a globe (graticule). Note as well that the demoniac kings who rule(d) the world have a big incentive to prepare and cast such a spell.

On the other hand, many sharp people who are onto these scientific lies, have absolutely no resonance with, or appreciation of, the astrological--or denounce it outright on religious grounds, especially when such knowledge is of "Eastern" origin.

But I suppose that's what it means to be an individuated self.

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