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Silvia
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Hello Ernst and all, I'm doing a dive into phonetics and the Grahas, and I have a few doubts about what's written in Grahas Sutras. 

1.- I'm missing the /f/ sound, as in "friend, family, France", called "voiceless labiodental fricative", it's sometimes spelt with "f" or "ph". Would it be ruled by the Moon? 

 

2.- The /d/ sound, as in "day, Daniel, down" is called a "voiced alveolar stop", but it's under dentals. 

Also, the /t/ sound, "Ted, Tilly, today" is a "voiceless alveolar stop", and is also under dentals. 

I'm guessing since the tongue goes very close to the teeth you are considering them dentals?

 

3.- What about the /w/ sound, as in "William, Walmart", called labio-velar approximant, would it go under the Moon? 

 

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Ernst Wilhelm
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f sound is ph, which is saturn. 

there are two t/d sounds, one is the dental with the tongue moving towards the teeth, the other is the retroflex of the tongue moving back towards the palate. 

 

w sound is same as v, yes, a moon sound. 

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Silvia
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Thank you, but /v/ a "voiced labiodental fricative" is a Moon sound, so the /f/ sound which is a "voiceless labiodental fricative" I think is Moon too, not Saturn. 

Cause with words like "family" you don't start the word with your lips fully pressed together, like with /p/ /b/ /m/ like "Paul, boy or mother"

/v/ and /f/ sounds the mouth position is almost identical

Thanks again!

 

 

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Ernst Wilhelm
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yes, for a sound like that, go with Moon. 

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Silvia
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Thank you, Ernst! All clear.

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