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Amit Bhat
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hi Ernst 

Sun is a kshtriya planet. It can be in different caste signs.

So Sun will be a prominent planet in Government Leaders and politicians 

So how it would behave by being in different castes? I was just contemplating based on how you generally explain caste qualities. Can we add anything more significant to these as well?

Brahmin - Leader will do his job without worrying about the outcome 

Kshtriya - Leader will do his job like a true warrior

Vaishya - Leader will see his job as an opportunity to make money or do like trade, not a natural inspiration. Most likely become a corrupt leader or politician or a businessman kind of leader?

Shudra - Leader will just do his job just for the sake of doing it.

Also Sun can be extremely delighted or starved, that will just say how happy or sad sun feels in following the above patterns in different castes.

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Hi Amit,

I don't know the answer to your question but it's a very interesting analysis. I was wondering how can we determine what cast a person "is from". Do you look at the ascendant, the Sun or other planet(s)/combo of planets in the signs? 

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Mona

 

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Hi Mona 

For determining caste, I first find career planets based on Jaimini techniques that Ernst taught. So that will indicate the profession. Sun and Mars are kshtriyas. Moon and Mercury are Vaishyas. Jupiter and Venus are Brahmins. Saturn is sudra. Rahu/Ketu are outcastes.

Then I am trying to understand sign caste analysis to see how they will further add to above. Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces are Brahmins.Aries, Leo and Sagittarius are Kshtriyas. Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo are Vaishyas. Gemini, Libra  and Aquarius are Sudras.

Say a teacher will be a having Jupiter or venus as his career planet and if its in kshtriyas sign, he can be a ruthless teacher, can easily resort to be harsh!! If its in vaishya sign, then his motivation to educate others will be to earn money and trying to improve his services for that motivation!! If it's in brahmin signs, then he will do his best to make sure students understand what he is teaching but then doesn't worry about the outcome either. In sudras sign, teacher teaches just for the sake of doing based on their capacity.

This is how I am wanting to look/test at it. 

For general behavior pattern of a person or general mentality, we need to look at the signs for self factors as Ernst taught in new rasi sutras. Like Sun, Moon, AK, Lagna and Lagna Lord.  Say if someone has 3 of these in kshtriyas, may be they will start fighting even for small things, or try to make things about principles. In Brahmins, perhaps they will understand easily God is behind everything. In Vaishyas, they will try to make things as trade as they keep dealing with people - what I did vs what I got in return or vice versa. In sudras, they won't take anything seriously except what they want for themselves and they can be happy doing service ! 

 

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@amit Thanks, great insight!

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I would go deeper than that. The Sun is a King, a Kshatriya. A King might be a leader, but he does not just sit on the throne giving orders. He also plays many different roles. A Kshatriya does what needs to be done. The King goes beyond what a normal Kshatriya does, beyond what Mars would do. It is because he cares.

The Sun is 1. He is the beginning. It is his kingdom. The other planets can work as gatekeepers at the kingdom, or end up trying to destroy it. The Sun is the last sentinel within the walls. He is where the buck stops.

Then we look at the roles of Brahmin, Kshatriyas, Vaishya and Sudra - not just the surface level jobs, but what it means deep down. A Brahmin is good and virtuous, displays self-control, offers emotional support - the role of the water signs. A Kshatriya is one who takes action to protect those under his care. A Vaishya is one who knows the value of things and can trade properly to help maintain the economy within the kingdom. A Sudra is one who takes care of mundane things so everything can run smoothly. Each of these places are important and none is better or less than others.

The Sun as a King and a Kshatriya is all of this. So if he was in the sign of Brahmin, he would display caring qualities. In Kshatriya sign, he would take action. In Vaishya, he would know what to keep and what to let go of. In Sudra, he will roll up his sleeves and dig trenches if he needs to.

So a teacher having a career planet in a Kshatriya sign, would perhaps use interaction as a tool to help the students understand. If the teacher is harsh or ruthless, then something is hindering the flow. In Vaishya, he would figure out what to allow and let go of. In Brahmin, he will be so much a part of what he is teaching that he will get the students hooked on. In Sudra, the air signs, he will figure out how to best do what he does.

Even though we make it all about others, everything is about personal evolution. The more we evolve, the more we get back in return. If we only go after what we want, we end up having expectations and getting disappointed.

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@manisha Thanks!

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You can't judge how a person will behave properly with their caste structure by seeing the caste of the the caste planet's sign. The most important thing to see that is to look at their Jupiter as Jupiter is the goal we are striving for. A starved Jupiter can point to a goal not aligned with the caste. 

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@ernst

Okay thank you Ernst. 

Could you please also throw some light on how the caste of sign will impact to the caste of career planet then? 

Like we can have four categories of teachers say having Venus as career planet in different caste signs? 

Will it be like Venus in brahmin signs teacher will be teaching philosophical subjects, in kshtriyas signs will be teaching army guys, in Vaishyas will be teaching business subjects and sudras will be teaching mundane subjects for making their living? 

Just trying to get the idea between planet and sign caste interactions.

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@ernst  is that for Jupiter in D9 or rasi?

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The caste of a sign has a lot to say about the motivation. Kshatriya signs want to change the world that the person is part of. Brahmin signs simply want to understand whats really happening. Sudra signs want to get their material needs met. Vaishya signs want to perform at their best. 

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Okay, thank you Ernst.

For instance: 

Former Indian Prime Minister Nehru was chiefly responsible for India Pakistan division. Then he was responsible for article 370 that kept terrorism on between India and Pakistan which is recently removed now.

Then he let Kailash slip away to China in 1962 war.

So he was not a true leader. Not to mention about his fantasies.

Indeed he got debilitated Jupiter with ketu!

Can we say he was a sudra Prime Minister because debilitated Jupiter caused him to slip to stick to self factor planets in sudra signs? Like he got venus his AK in Libra with mars.

 

Thank you 

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