Sw Vivekananda's LA...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Sw Vivekananda's LAs

34 Posts
6 Users
27 Likes
362 Views
Amit Bhat
Posts: 878
Topic starter
(@amit)
Noble Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Hello Ernst
 
I am checking Sw Vivekananda's chart. 
 
I see he got moon saturn jupiter combo in 10th house and he rose to sainthood so fast and finished his life mission in just 39 years despite bad LAs caused by saturn. I see he got Avataraja "heavenly descended king" yoga. 
 
Could there be any super specific factors that can help to identify saintly factors especially when there are bad LAs and distinguish them from common men who would be pathetic for a long time with such bad LAs?
May be exalted planets in 12th from AK in D9/D24 or any particular akriti yogas?
I think in case of saints, bad LAs show the quality of bad karmas they would be taking from their devotees on themselves for their faster liberation. 
 
Thank you
 
 
 
 
33 Replies
Posts: 678
(@staffan)
Prominent Member
Joined: 2 years ago

Akriti yogas are really important I believe.

I have a tough chart with no planets with really good DigBala for example. DB Saturn and shamed Jupiter. Toasted Mercury. Yet most things have in some miraculous way worked out for me and I dare to say that I have lived a "bigger" life than most people I know. Both Moon and Asc in Vargottama may be part of the explanation, but also - perhaps - my chakra (akriti) yoga. I think I owe a lot to it. (Besides that I have a Sara yoga, but let´s not go into that.)

I read a chart today with a woman with Ma/Ju/Sa/Ra in her 7th. She also had very good things in her chart, but come on... She still seemed balanced and content. Because of her Samudra yoga, perhaps?

I just checked my wives akritis yesterday. So fun to see that she has a Ardha Shandra yoga from the 9th to the third. With Jupiter in the 9th, and yes, she´s from another planet, spiritually she´s next level. Broad vision, for sure. And ends with Mercury in the 3rd, and there I find her, sitting by the kitchen table labeling bottles of herbal extracts that she has prepared. Spot on, just how a Ardha Shandra yoga is supposed to work!

Staffan

Reply
Amit Bhat
Posts: 878
Topic starter
(@amit)
Noble Member
Joined: 5 years ago

Akriti plays a great role indeed to withstand the purgative effects of bad LAs. What akriti we can expect for great saints and avatars? If that is the case, then those must be some extremely rare akritis because the true saints are extremely rare.

Reply
1 Reply
(@staffan)
Joined: 2 years ago

Prominent Member
Posts: 678

@amit I would expect "Yupa", the sacrificial pillar to be one of them. All planets in the first 4 houses. Also the two I mentioned, Chakra and Samudra, since they give a lot of strength.

Staffan

Reply
Scott-M-19
Posts: 628
(@scott-m-19)
Noble Member
Joined: 4 years ago

In my opinion, I don't think you can 'measure' somebody's state of consciousness by looking at a static horoscope. That requires intuitive perception. 

Reply
Amit Bhat
Posts: 878
Topic starter
(@amit)
Noble Member
Joined: 5 years ago

I think that 12th from AK/Pada/UPA definitely has some say on the level of consciousness, that's why Jaimini says ketu there is an indication of liberation, exaltation and benefics are good to have 

Reply
5 Replies
Scott-M-19
(@scott-m-19)
Joined: 4 years ago

Noble Member
Posts: 628

@amit 

It is an interesting method, that is for sure. I have just found it difficult to look at a chart and try to see how spiritually advanced someone is just from that. I just find contradictory things happening. I have seen Ke in 12th from Sva in someone who was not spiritual for instance. Gurus often have 'bad' avasthas just like everyone else. 

What I find is that a Guru figure will express the planets signs ect. in its highest octave even if the avasthas seem 'poor'. 

Also, I think looking at the Moksha and Dharma yogas is important. I know Ernst has mentioned in Gurus charts, you will typically find more dharma and moksha yogas than kama or artha yogas. 

It is really interesting though, something I have always wanted to try and see. 

Reply
Amit Bhat
(@amit)
Joined: 5 years ago

Noble Member
Posts: 878

@scott-m-19

Yes, putting it all together, dharma and moksha yogas, ke in 12th and a good akriti can certainly indicate saintlyhood despite bad LAs

Reply
(@staffan)
Joined: 2 years ago

Prominent Member
Posts: 678

@amit @scott-m-19

It´s hard to see clearly in astrology, and sometimes it´s hard even in real life. So it´s hard. The dumbest, most clumsy, rude and arrogant pr^^k sometimes come in and save the day. Many years ago I used to watch the Simpsons and I remember that to be a trope that they repeated; that sometimes all the more or less savy people, like Marge and Lisa, just f^^ked everything up, and all of a sudden Homer - the least expected! - became the balanced and reasonable guy. That fascinated me and I have kept an eye on the phenomenon ever since. That sometimes the smart guys that always save the day just don´t cut it, and vv.

Not saying that real wisdom and high level of consciousness aren´t a real things, because it very much is, I bleive. But sometimes it doesn´t manifest the way you expect. The wisest can be really stupid in some ways and vv.

And also wise people often gains wisdom through a turnaround, so FIRST they must be real low-lives, before gaining wisdom. That will be seen in the chart too.

Staffan

Reply
Amit Bhat
(@amit)
Joined: 5 years ago

Noble Member
Posts: 878

@staffan 

I think you are right. Success doesn't fall in anyone's lap on its own whether it's worldly success or spiritual success until the person has been beaten up by life badly at some point whether in this or previous lives and the person has determined to overcome all barriers because the indwelling perfect soul knows nothing is impossible really and the harshest of realities or even the mountains of bad karmas can never suppress it forever.

So a point comes where universe conspires to line up all the favourable factors together even in the adverse circumstances to make up for the liberation of unceasingly striving soul.

In case of Sw. Vivekananda, that heavenly descended king yoga says it all, he is already come to do it this time and become a shining example for us all 

Reply
(@staffan)
Joined: 2 years ago

Prominent Member
Posts: 678

@amit Yep!

Raj yogas contribute, of course.

 The D-10...

Staffan

Reply
Page 1 / 2
Share: