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Francesca
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Hi Ernst,

I just finished watching videos 39 to 43 of the Jaimini beginner's course and I have a few questions on the material.

1) In the course, you say to read the native's relationship to their children from Jupiter and 5th house factors. Is there any way to read the 1st, 2nd, 3rd child more specifically in the saptamsa?

2) The same question goes for people for whom multiple marriages are indicated in the chart. Is there a way to specifically read their relationship to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd spouse in the navamsa? Or is the assumption that the native will fall into the same kind of pattern repeatedly and this is why you read the same factors for all spouses?

3) Is there a way to "fix" a troubled navamsa? If a troubled d9 is the result of the native not having followed their dharma in their past lives, it seems like the "solution" would be start following their dharma, right?

This is what seems to be the crux: If they have a troubled navamsa, they will most likely experience resistance to them following their dharma in this life (again). If their Venus is afflicted, that should also mean that no path will ever truly ever "feel" right and fulfilling. So for the person with the truly troubled navamsa, if neither there surroundings nor their inner voice are supporting their path, what can they use as an indicator that they are actually following their dharma?

If you see someone with a troubled d9, do you then go back to the Rasi, look at the Lajjitaadi Avasthas and counsel the person from there, so they can fix their LAs, get in touch with their inspiration (Sun and Jupiter), live according to their inner voice and dharma and learn to experience true joy?

4) Say a person has a great Rasi chart, but a troubled navamsa (especially an afflicted Venus). Does that mean that their path could be great, they could even be on the right path, but they still won't feel fulfilled?

5) You said that, generally speaking, before the age of 40, the d7 is more important for a woman and the d9 for a man. What if there are multiple factors in the Rasi chart pointing towards the person not fitting into traditional gender roles. If the woman has several factors in the Rasi that show she is more initiative and assertive, do you then assign more significance to the d9 when reading for her? If the man has several factors in the Rasi that show he is more passive and receptive, do you then assign more significance to the d7 when reading for him?

As someone who has lived in Western (European) countries for most of her life, my impression is that there is generally more of a shift towards a balancing out of male/female dynamics. This seems to be especially true in Nordic countries. Personally, I don't know any woman my age who doesn't have a career. I also don't know any man my age who is the sole provider of his family and who isn't significantly involved in child rearing. In societies where gender roles are balancing out, would you give equal weight to the d7 and d9 for men and women?

6) Would you make adjustments in how you weigh/use the charts in other cultures or when reading for historical figures?

If you read for someone who is from a very traditional culture or someone who knows their marriage will be arranged, do you go straight to the navamsa?

For times and cultures where divorce is/was not an option or very uncommon, do you interpret strong separating factors (both Rahu and Saturn) ganging up on relationship indicators as the two partners growing apart (or there being separation by death) rather than divorce?

7) If you saw a really good d7 and a really troubled d9, would you counsel the client to stay with their partner, have children, and simply not get married (this is starting to be more common in Western European countries)? That would seem like one possible solution. At the same time, it's hard for me to believe that you could escape the bad fate of one of your vargas simply by not signing a piece of paper. If you were in a committed relationship with someone for 20, 30 years or even longer, you would still support or hinder the dharma in one way or another. So, to me, it seems like, even if you don't get married, you'll still interact with a long-term partner in a way that would activate and be reflected in the navamsa.

8) Can difficulties in the navamsa also just indicate that the person will marry someone that is from a different culture and that there may be incompatilities based on that? Or could a troubled navamsa indicate that the culture the native lives in doesn't support them marrying the person they love? This could be the case if the native isn't heterosexual, especially if they live in a conservative and traditional culture.

Angela

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Ernst Wilhelm
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answers to your questions:

1. in the 3rd jaimini audio course is how to look at 1st, 2nd, etc. children. 

2. for second marriage, i just use the same factors but in light of the different dasas.

3. yes, solution of all things is to follow dharma and that includes the right habits for the person in question. 

4. yes, i focus on the lajjitaadi avasthas. 

5. No, i don't change the D7/D9 age shift for people with different levels of masculinity or femininity. Men's and woman's hormones always shift later in life. Men's male hormones go down and woman's female hormones go down. 

 

6. you have to look at charts in respect to the culture of the person. 

 

7. if a person has a bad navamsa, they never feel quite right in their big life choices. thats really what the navamsa is. What lifestyle am I going to live? and do i feel right about that choice? Does that choice feel like a good deal to me, or do I regret that choice?

 

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Francesca
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@ernst

Thanks a million, Ernst ???? !

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@ernst I love the simplicity of these answers! No need to drag out the truth! What is will be simple, concise and concrete. Yay for Jaimini!

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