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hi ernst,

please can you confirm or expand my understanding of the expression of debilitated saturn in the 7th house . saturn directional strength is in the 7th house/ cusp , how being debilitated there will express itself as a behavior? saturn is a separator and separate itself from the 7th cusp ;does its debilitated state will express as inability to separate oneself well in  challenging situation within relationship ,meaning, struggle with focusing  on the work ones need to do within themselves, and rather get caught in ,an oversensitivity to one's weaknesses triggered by those relationship circumstances?. and how does an exalted saturn in the 7th cusp would express itself as a behavior? ( strong ability of separating oneself within the relationship circumstances to reflect and improve ones capacity to deal and react to things better)  ? 

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Hi Sharon,

Just checking for clarification: Is your question about directional strength in general and mainly in the Rasi (as stated in the question)?

Or is your question about Saturn in the saptamsa, i. e. d7 (as stated in the title of the question)?

 

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@francesca  i was just mentioning the directional strength as an indication for saturn behavior in his strongest house. but my question is more about the expression of saturn in the 7th house in the Aris in the subtamsha (directional strength is measured by the rasi )

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Dig bala only happens in the rasi. Don't read vargas like the rasi, dont be concerned about behavior in saptamsa, read behavior in the rasi. In saptamdsa its very easy, DB saturn will seperate a person from making co creative connections. 

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@ernst, yes i know dig balla happens only in the rasi, i was just mentioning the directional strength of saturn as an indication for saturn behavior in his strongest house.

I thought we could draw more information about the way things will manifest or separate in a certain varga ,with regard to a certain event, by looking at who the planet is and how his characteristic will express itself in different houses and different signs to give us more indication about the story of an event . 

in any case, please can you clarify,  if we do look, lets say at the rasi,  what then debilitated saturn in the 7th will express itself, or how would a person behave(libra lagna)?

and the same question for exa saturn in the 7th in the rasi (aris lagna)? 

does its debilitated state will express as inability to separate oneself well in  challenging situation within relationship ,meaning, struggle with focusing  on the work ones need to do within themselves, and rather get caught in ,an oversensitivity to one's weaknesses triggered by those relationship circumstances?. and in the case of exalted saturn in the 7th cusp, it would express itself as having a strong ability of separating oneself within the relationship circumstances to reflect and improve ones capacity to deal and react to things better ? 

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Also, a DB planet simply starts with less resources, so for saturn that means less disease resistance, less ability to deal with what htey have to perservere through without feeling stressed, overwhelmed, sick, depressed. 

 

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People will have their behaviour, the rasi chart, and this behavior will have consequences as per the other vargas. If a planet is debilitated, it means the consequences of the behaviour is more severe. 

db saturn in the 7th in the rasi is a starved by mars saturn and that is how i would primarily read it. 

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@ernst you said" People will have their behaviour, the rasi chart, and this behavior will have consequences as per the other vargas. If a planet is debilitated, it means the consequences of the behaviour is more severe. "

so if saturn exa in the rasi ,in the 7 house/cusp for example, but debilitated in the saptamsha, does it mean that, the consequences of the behaviour of an exalted saturn in the 7th in the rasi , is much less productive, in the d-7 to the point it can actually destroy the varga indication(that is when he is connected to the 7th factor in the d-7 )? please can you explain that kind of situation as a scenario or behaviour expression? 

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