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Manisha
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@pam  The COT course will help you understand yourself and your path a bit better. It is shorter than the astrology course, but the depth is profound.

As a fellow Queen of Clubs, I can understand your journey because mine has run on similar lines. Our path is that of the 9 of Spades, undergoing deep suffering and yet being ok with what we have and what we don’t have. The process is intended to bring about death of our ego and to understand life on a deeper level. 

Our Pluto card is the King of Diamonds - as soon as we have something, it gets taken away. With our Neptune card being the King of Hearts, we have to learn to give love unconditionally despite our pain and suffering. Once we get to that stage, we get more of the same and the cycle continues.

With our Saturn card of 5 of Spades, we are learning to survive through anything that life throws at us and reaching for more, thus deepening our faith. Thankfully with our Sun card of 10 of Spades, we have the strength to go through the worst. And with our Moon card of 5 of Clubs, we find what we need to carry on.

I am in the midst of focusing on something, so I can’t help you read your chart, except maybe a quick run-down through COT. But if you feel like having someone to talk to who understands your journey, let me know and I will give you my email address.

Depending on your age, you might be interested in looking at the Rahu-Ketu courses and the Avasthas courses. Your ‘need’ for home and family might be getting triggered at the moment. The Avasthas course will help you understand that need more to be able to deal with it.

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Pam
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@manisha Hi fellow Queen of Clubs! I'm sure it would be very interesting to learn our similarities and the different ways it has played out.  I have definitely had to learn a lot through losing what I have constantly, including relationships and material things.  I guess, if all that didn't happen, I wouldn't be trying to seek a deeper meaning now. I can see that it still happens now but on a different level.  I have definitely learnt to give love unconditionally, despite my own pain and suffering. 

My Moon card has definitely helped me to find what I need to carry on in many ways, which is a beautiful place to live and a meaningful job.

I will definitely look into doing the COT course as it seems so accurate. I listened to some of the Rahu-Ketu lessons and that explained a lot and brought up more questions. My main point of starting this learning was to find out why I am in this situation, what I have to learn from it and if and when it will change. I definitely feel something is being triggered at the moment, specially with Jupiter/Saturn transit conjunct my 7th and I am in Jupiter/Saturn Dasa. I'm guessing that would make sense? 

Thanks for offering to look at my COT but I wouldn't want to distract you from what you are focusing on because I know what us Queen of Clubs are like when we are focusing and we need all our energy for that.  I would love to keep in touch by email though, that would be great!

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Pam

 

 

 

 

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Manisha
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@pam  Yes, one day, it would be great to see how things played out differently under similarities. Thank you for allowing me to hold my focus. Stare at things long enough, and they divulge their secrets. LOL. Contact address is manishahunt at hotmail dot com.

I believe Ernst has a short course on relocation and it covers whether or not you will travel abroad and if you will sever connections with home. I am pretty sure it’s in the relocation course. Maybe someone will correct me if I am wrong. That might get you the answer you are looking for.

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Mattias
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I´ve had a quick look on your chart Pam but I´m not experienced enough to go deeper into your concrete question; whether you are going to turn back to UK or not. All I can contribute with is a couple of observations; for example your lagna lord is in the 7th house, so there is a strong emphasis on relationships in your life; be it a partner in love or business or be it som kind of public/audience. Your ascendent, in the card system, falls in your 5 of Clubs Moon Card, underlining your tendency for and need for change; the image in nature for that card is about leaves directing towards the Sun; finding God, finding the truth; rather beautiful. That also resonates with your Venus card, 7 of Diamonds; that card has another face one can say, that is 9 of Heart; it´s an indication about not finding in this world what works; aiming for universal love. So you may feel in any relationship that it´s not good enough; you are longing for a deeply spiritual, over-worldly connection. Your 5th cusp is there - indicating creativity and children - and so is Venus, that in your case represents your mother as well as your children; it indicates a deeply spiritual connection with your children; maybe that´s why you have been able to live far away from them, since you have a deep connection anyway? A relation that does not quite work out in a worldly sense of the word, there is a lack of practicality or a concrete problem attached to it (being away) as indicated by the number 7 (ending of something) of the Earth suite (something concrete, manifested and practical); but as I said, that card is a gateway to the 9 of Hearts; universal life; it´s like flipping a coin; crisis in this world/a notion of universal love.

There is more to it... Your Sun in the 3 of Diamonds Mars card makes me think that you are somewhat of a perfectionist, always wanting to do your best in everything you put your mind to. Perhaps using a somewhat psychic skill; photography, fasion, fengshui and any kind of job where you are connected to the energy flow in some way; there may be a lack of concrete practicality; personally I have it on my Sun card and I feel the concrete practical world so booooring; it takes me a day to make a hole in  wall just because of pure drudgery...

Your progressed cards indicate that you are in processing your 7 of Diamonds card right now; that is accepting the limitations of this world and embracing - hopefully - the other side of that card - that All you need is love, and that what you really need and long for is beyond... Well, that´s my interpretation, partly based, I guess,  on my own experience of having that card as my Mercury card. After that, when you turn 63, you will be under the influence of 6 of Spades; that´s being fully grown- up, mature and independent.

And many other thing, of course... Your main question I leave unanswered, I hope you will find an answer for that in the course.

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Mattias

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Pam
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@meyes  Thanks Mattias for taking the time to look at my chart.  Your interpretation is very interesting.  Yes, I think relationships have been most important to me and the thing I have to work on the most.  I feel I have a deeper spiritual connection with my son, who is with me.  I have never really had a relationship with someone very spiritual and I tend to lose my own connections and interest with astrology, etc., when I am with them, I tend to forget it all and it steers me away from my path.  I have also been reading up on the 7s.

I am definitely a perfectionist and can't rest if I think something isn't the best I can do. I'm not a medical professional but I work in an environment with sick children and it changes on a daily basis, not a very concrete or predictable environment.  I also work from home using graphic design which involves enhancing photos, so not sure if that makes sense.

I see my 7 of diamonds in the progressed 7 year chart as the ecliptic card and can relate to the meaning in the limitations of the world, as you say.  Thanks so much for pointing that out as it gives me an idea of what to focus on.  I think, even if I have not had a concrete answer to my original question, these posts have definitely given me a lot to think about and understand about the situation. 

It's so interesting and definitely given me the inspiration to start studying the cards as soon as I can.  Thanks again for the interpretation! 

Pam

 

 

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lopperwinkie
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Hi Pam and Everyone,

This is synchronicity for me because I have had the same intense desire to return to my home state (Florida) for about a week or so. I am currently running a Ketu antardasa and Ketu is exact Rasi-aspecting my 4th cusp. Mercury is the bhukti lord (3rd level) and Mercury is my 4th lord. The phenomena that comes into my life also reminds me of my childhood, like watching certain Netflix shows based in Florida that awakened strong desire to return there. And even throwing out all of the misgivings and ambivalence I've had about Florida before this time period and transit. It is almost over (the Ketu antardasa)and I know that I won't be returning there, but, wow! what an experience that I cannot remember feeling.

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@lopperwinkie Hi Laura.  Sorry for the delay replying, as it's been a busy few days.  I had a look at my chart to see if I have any Ketu influences too as I can relate to what you have said.  I also watch TV programmes or films that are made in UK, which makes me want to go back more but I feel at home watching them.  Also, the desire to return has been stronger recently, as I have always otherwise had misgivings about returning.  

So in my chart, Ketu is transiting leaving conjunction (about 3.5 degrees away) from my natal Ketu in Sagittarius.  Also Mercury, my 4th lord, is transiting Sagittarius and conjuncting transiting Ketu and natal Ketu.  I am in Jupiter Mahadasha, and I can relate that to Jupiter being the ruler of Sagittarius, where my Ketu is!

Amazing! Definitely synchronicity too that you should mention this and I didn't even relate Ketu to any of it when I have so much Ketu and ruler of 4th going on. Thanks for pointing it out!

Pam

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