Hello everyone,
silly question maybe, but still: How does a philosophy, in which you are the creator of your realities, fit together with predictive Astrology, where even time of death can be determined? I understand, that we have been given a unique set of characteristics and potentials and that we choose how to work with it… but it seems that some things, we don’t choose at all… Would appreciate a lot your thoughts about it, thank you!????
P.S.:
I understand it that way, that life is happening in the very present moment. That’s also where we can sense lifes energies- in the present moment. We live in the now and our brain thinks the time. The planets make this predictable movements- is that why our life is also partially predictive?
Hi @TamaraP,
I would like to contribute partially to your question which I believe it is much deeper.
I must have had similar questions, that’s why I’ve been keeping this from Mr. Wilhelm:
“The horoscope only shows 75% of the events of life. The other 25% will follow that 75% if the person makes no effort to raise their consciousness above their egocentric conditioning. But for people who do that, who knows what else will come.
Also, while 75% of life is indicated in the chart, an astrologer will probably only predict maybe 20% of that 75%, so we can never take what an astrologer says as the extent of our life, but only as the few events which are a fraction of our lives….”
There is a sutra from BPHS, also this is amongst my pinned notes:
“Sri Vishnu, who is the Lord, who has undefiled spirit, who is endowed with the three Gunas, although he transcends the grip of Gunas, who is the Author of this Universe, who is glorious, who is the Cause and who is endowed with valour, has no beginning. He authored the Universe and administers it with a quarter of his power. The other three quarters of Him, filled with nectar, are knowable only to the philosophers.” (Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra Chapter 1, Sutra 9-12)
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(Hence that 75%)
In my opinion, I don’t think that we choose anything at all, however if we’d think that we didn’t, we wouldn’t be able to get out of bed and live a life with motivation.
Thank you for bringing up such a wonderful topic.
Zumrut
Thank you very much for your answer! I will write this down too. That makes it more understandable for me. Nevertheless, it remains somewhat mysterious, but that's also the nice thing about it, isn’t it?
I think we can decide everyday where to invest our energy in. But we have this palette of individual colours and choose them from there. Some colours may not be in the palette. The picture we then draw can, to 25%, be an unpredictable wonder. If we don’t use this palette genuinely and with the right motivation, we are , to 100 % drawn by…
Hi,
This is a question I've been looking for answers too. For me, I don't think I'll get the full picture until I've really gotten into Vedic philosophy and thinking which is what I've started doing.
The video Zumrut referenced is a good one. I've gotten answers I find logical and compelling by other teachers, recently Vic diCara. He has a video on karma, in which he explains his view. Essentially your fate is a result of your past choices (even going back to other lifetimes). You are reaping the fruits of those actions and if you're changing course significantly there will be a lot of resistance. Not as a punishment but because you are still dealing with the dynamics of something in movement. Much like it's difficult to stop a giant rock rolling down a hill because it still has so much momentum. And because we're talking about momentum, we can calculate the course of someone's action and the likelihood they will exert their willpower to change that course. Obviously, there are things that one can't predict though.
Hello, that is also an interesting and important point, thank you! We come from somewhere and always have this suitcase with us that we can clean up or not. Maybe we will never fully understand all of this with only our cognitive capacities. But there might be theories about it. If you will get more information about this topic, it would be great to read about it!
Would you mind to write the names of the two videos here please? ????
Dear @tamarap & @francesca-2,
I loved both of the analogies, the individual color pallete and the rolling rock. (In fact, I thought of the Roadrunner and the coyote cartoons with the rock and made me laugh at myself each time trying to fix the subconscious codes.)
Yes, 25% must be hidden in the vault of the Heavens, and that’s a worthwhile percentage to trying to get out of what’s being written, especially after Rahu maturation and onwards.
Thank you
Zumrut
You didn’t ask me but I would like to share 2 videos, if you’d be interested:
This is Mr. Wilhelm is with KRS talking about Rahu’s running the show regarding our subjective consciousness. Wonderful information there:
https://www.youtube.com/live/7jXN42_GxNQ?si=pVhxJ4Z04dZzhjQ1
This one is Mr. Wilhelm with Carmina, talking about freewill and determinism, which is also an eye-opener and head scratcher.
I'm sharing an experience here that made me think a lot about fate. But also about the question of responsibility towards the client, especially, to reveal things, that he or she can deal with constructively.
When I was 17, my mother took me to see a woman from Wales who was known to be clairvoyant. This woman predicted my mother would have breast cancer and she told me, that she would see a fire, a white car and if I knew someone whose name would start with the letter "A" and left me alone with this fragmented information. These three components of an unclear, but apparently ominous scene (fire, white car and name with "A") have been sitting in my head for thirty years now. I have been trying to erase this fix idea because it has obviously a negative impact and causing preoccupation whenever this combination, as described above , takes place (without the fire- the fire is the horrifying thing, one expects to happen in the end). It didn’t make it any better when she was right about my mothers breast cancer …
Today I try to confront this matter, whenever I have this situation or somebody, that I know, with an inner feeling of deep trust, that everything will be fine and as it has to be, with humour, and awareness. I decided to take it as teaching. So, I don’t know exactly why I am telling this story but somehow it matches the topic about fate and free will!
Have a nice day!
I’m sorry for your mother. I hope she’ll be better.
After a couple incidents, I decided not to speak about a possibility of some things might go south and/or bad things might happen to the clients or family members. Even my ego wants to be right, it’s never nearly as more important from stealing away a person’s peace. Including myself, I understand that it is extremely hard to learn that something bad might happen and sit down and wait. That would require to be highly selfless and enlightenment.
Could you please check and mention, if yours and your mother’s Svamsas are aspected by only Mars? I wonder.
Thank you for sharing
Zumrut
Hi Zumrut,
thank you! My mother is well fortunately, she is astrologer, naturopath and buddhist, which helped a lot, she could handle the illness with changes she made in life, she is fine today regarding this:-)!! She was 32 when it happened, this is quite young for cancer and therefore cancer can be more aggressive.
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this topic. I don’t know if I even wanna know my death information but I guess you cannot escape it when you are an astrologer. And working with f.ex. Medical astrology can also lead to a healthier life which is absolutely desirable. Wow yes, how to handle these kinds of information about the really “bad” things. That’s a topic at its own! I wonder if there is some info about it here.
i will check Mars and come back to you:)
Be well,
Tamara