Hi all,
I understand 11th house lord is an evil/inauspicious yoga breaker, as it diverts the native to seek societal/peer validation and approvals which comes in the way of following one's inspiration.
Does this evil nature/inauspiciousness of the 11th lord extend to the 11th house itself? What if a native has some or many planets in the 11th house? Would that be an inauspicious thing when it comes to following one's dharma and growing spiritually? For eg: I have seen one astrologer put it that it's harder to let go of planets and yogas in the 11th house. Another mentioning that it's an upachaya, not a dusthana and in western astrology it's the house of joy, so it's a good house. Asking here as I have seen different viewpoints by different tropical vedic astrologers.
Sa/Ra in the 11th here, Saturn DB... It´s lord Ma in inimical dignity.
I think I´m a little too close to the matter to be able to say anything authoritive and general though.
So I´ll stay attuned and see what the answer(s) will be.
(Personally, although this has no bearing whatsoever on the general picture I guess, my path is very much about breakdowns, desillusions and letting go, even though my Saturn is DB, since my BC is 5 of Clubs, which is all about that. So having this obstructed house has served me in a backwards way, I believe. But that´s me.)
Staffan
The 11th house is interesting. My take on it is it is the best upachaya house, house of long term gain, investment, house of title, older siblings. You make money in 11th n what you get to keep is 2nd house. It is also the 12th from the 12th which is a house of loss. I asked ernst about 11th house because i was trying to reconcile that it is a house of gain but also a house of loss. I also have 4 2/11 pv yoga be in my vargas.
- it is a house of gain title but to get all that there is a high price to pay. You have to really think is it worth your time to get that title. Some time at the end of the day the price is too high and the return on investment is not equitable.
if u have many planets in the11th it tells me your energy will be spent there.
tuyet
@staffan @tuyetv Thanks for sharing your thoughts. So I have Jupiter in 11th house conjunct 10th cusp. My 11th cusp is in the 12th house. While I don't have any elder siblings, I have been blessed with elder sibling like people in my life. My 11th lord is neither conjunct nor aspecting any auspicious planet, and I haven't really felt drawn to gaining titles for external/social status/validation/approval.
@qwertym2 Your 11th cusp is in the 12 House which is the Moksha house, house of letting go. So that is probably why you have no interest in titles. Sort of double letting go here since 11th is also 12th from the 12th. There is a longevity yoga if the Lord of the 11th House in the 8th House, you will outlived your partner.
tuyet
@tuyetv That's an interesting connection you made with the 11th cusp in the 12th house! Earlier I was thinking it is just due to 11th evil lord not affecting any yogakarakas
@qwertym2 That's so interesting! May I ask if there's a foreign element to your social network? Maybe some of them are from different parts of the world? Has your income come from any 12th house means? Maybe you make your income in solitude?
Thanks 🙂
@curioussoul It's true that I do connect with people from different parts of the world over the internet as much(maybe even more) as I do with those in my real life. Connecting on this forum with other fellow astrologers is a good example of that. What could be some examples of income from 12th house?
@qwertym2 Awesome. That makes sense.
Hmm, income examples from the 12th house. Foreign business dealings -- that actually made me think about drop shippers since they usually connect with sellers from foreign countries, would be cool to see the charts of people who make money from that.
Perhaps making money from an ashram, spiritual retreats, bed pleasures, foreign tours, international clients...just some broad 12th house things.
Great question! I'd love to share my personal take -- I have a Moon/Mercury conjunction in the 11th house (also the 11th and 10th cusp).
I'm just thinking out loud here. Perhaps the inauspiciousness comes from the Shad Bala of the planets in the 11th house. For example, my Moon is high up in the sky, it has .72 points of Dig Bala, lol. So when I was in my late teens and early 20s, I had many strong desires for titles and status. In those years, I worked quite hard (11th is also 6th from the 6th) and attained some of those things.
So yes, I think it depends on the details (Shad Bala) of the planets in the 11th house. If not so good, it could definitely get in the way of growing spiritually.
🙂