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katalina1
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Hi,

for determining the losses and profits, do we consider the professions that planets represent or the karakas that they are? For example, Mars rules real estate and stones as a Karaka, but Saturn rules builders and mining. If we have Mars as a planet aspecting the 12th of the pada for loss and Saturn is a planet for profit, can we say that real estate deals and mining of stones will be a loss?

And excuse me if you have spoken about it, but if the Pada and the Upapada don't have any planets in them, which one do we take take first?

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Ernst Wilhelm
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Karakas and professions will not be in conflict with each other. If they are, then there is some confusion about the karakas. So, Mars rules land, and bricks. Saturn rules stones as Jaimini says Saturn makes a house of stones. The primary karaka of any wealth that comes from the earth is Mars, he is everything auspicious that comes out of the ground. So he has a say in mining. Saturn is also involved as much of mining is removing, which is saturn, the ore, which is stones that are not wanted from the precious metals. So mining requires both saturn and mars. Mars aspecting the 12th would indicate that the expense of the land and mining engineering will be large. Saturn aspecting 11th indicates that there will be a way to make some profit on the junk dirt and rock removed from the mining process. 

But in end, with mars aspecting 12th, the expense will be high and so not the best idea to deal with land or mining. 

If pada and upapada both dont have planets, then look to see whose lord is stronger. 

 

 

 

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katalina1
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@ernst thanks for the clarification. We have studied so many different techniques that sometimes it gets confusing. For example, in medical astrology, Venus is the digestive system and also as a ruler of Taurus it rules restaurants and nutrition, which for me was very confusing that the Moon rules over restaurants in Jaimini techniques and not Venus. But i guess we have to separate that knowledge in order to use it with the different teachings.

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Ernst Wilhelm
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Both full moon and Venus can give luxury type careers with jaimini, which includes restaurants. 

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Silvia
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@enrst what happens when Mercury aspects 12th from Pada (Pada is Virgo, so stronger than Capricorn Upapada) but Venus and Mars aspect 11th from Pada. 

Would having a business (mercury) always bring more loss than gain? Even when Mars is in better dignity (moolatrikona) than Mercury? So for example a gem business... would that be fruitful? 

Thank you!

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Yogesh Lohra
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@silvia yes very good question u asked  this happen to me too very  often and it tests your skills to the core , here are my 2 cents specially on  Mercury aspecting 12th from Pada - check if mercury is connected to 7th lord or 7th house somehow if yes then also check D4 too for validation how is mercury overall in D4 and has any connection to 7th house of Trade and then let your intuition work and if mercury if not connected to 7th house factor then I could be trade off which is required to do the gem business due to Mar and Ve which could be good if Me is in good dignity overall .

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Silvia
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@yogesh yes, that could be something to look into. In this case Mercury does rashi aspect the 7th house. And ME is good alone in Taurus in D4, can't trust the cusps cause TOB not accurate

There is another technique: 10th from Karakamsha (AK's rashi in D9) aspected by ME or VE brings gains in business. This chart also has it, so even if ME aspects 12th from Pada in D1 I believe they will eventually earn from business, it's just gonna take some time and learning, profitability will not come straight away, and this has been true for her.  

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