Dear @ernst
In your Jaimini Audio course you explain that Kemadruma Yoga is when you have equal number of malefics with no benefics in 2nd and 8th from Lagna, Pada and Swamsha. Do we also consider kemadruma yoga from AK in the Rashi chart?
(since we do consider many Swamsha rules for Rashi chart and related vargas with lesser degrees of power)
@ernst Do you also consider bandhana yogas from the AK in the D1?
And would Ke and Ra alone in 4th and 10th, respectively, be considered and "equal number of malefics", or do only the visible grahas count?
Many thanks,
S.
Dear @mitryendra80
Ra/Ke alone in the forth and tenth cause Bandhana yoga. It's actually one of the famous ones. In his Jaimini audio course Ernst has said " you don't want Ra and Ke alone in the 4th and 10th" when he is explaining the Bandhana Yogas.
In my understanding Bhandana Yogas are derived out of Jaimini's Argula as a source of strength and Argula is always calculated based on the Lagna.
Again in some place in the jaimini audio course @ernst says argula can also be considered from other houses as a secondary matter to see the power of the planets in respect to that house but the base is always from the Lagana.
So should the Bandhana Yogas i believe. (@ernst please clarify)
My question is, does Ke and Ra in 4th and 10th FROM THE AK, not the lagna, also count as a bandana yoga???
I know I could listen to the whole audio again, but it is one long block of time with no timestamps or chapters or ability to bookmark.
I decided to put aside Jaimini some time ago, but now I need to know what is going on here.
My apologies,
S.
@ernst Thanks for clarifying. I had to take a tranquilizer.
I remember there was one "Jaimini scholar", however, who did consider bandanas from the AK. But then again he also had a reputation for "winging it" or jumping to random "intuitive" conclusions at best.
I guess the excruciating prison effect I am feeling has more to do with Ra and Ke's lords being famously cruel enemies who are both rashi and graha aspecting each other across kendras in starvation.
Unfortunately this will be my horrid legacy to the world, as shown additionally by a dhainya yoga in the fated d7 where Ra and Ke's signs and lords are role-reversed but involve the those same enemies and will pull me, as well as others involved in my life, into the abyss in the end.
What is weird is that these types of yogas seem designed to intentionally get our attention. As if they want something from us, some sort of lesson while they operate through their exasperating irony and repetitive denial of what our inner voice says is the next step, which should be as important as breathing. I separates us from validating or interactive connections with the world. It then punishes us for noticing it. Our egos need to breath and disperse and relax, much like therapeutic blood-letting, in order to resolve and dissolve. Not to be locked in a narrow suffocating tube to, ferment, mutate, choke on its own condensation, and reproduce into infinite malignancy through doubt and invalidation, where everyone around us becomes a puppet of our invisible tormenter and we ourselves become puppets of others projections in a mutual cycle.
Those bandhanda, dhainya, kemadruma, etc. type yogas seem to want us to wring our arms and say "I GET IT!! I HEAR YOU!! I SURRENDER! NOW WHAT DO YOU WANT?!?" Then the yogas would respond by saying "F#ck You! Thats what!"
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@mitryendra80 don't forget to simply examine the lajjitaadi avasthas of rahu and ketu's lords, that has a lot to do in respect to how challenging rahu and ketu will be.
@ernst Yep. Ke's lord Saturn, in addition to being conjunct Mars, is starved by sun via opposition aspect of 57 points. Then there's the rashi aspect.
These past few days My ra/ke lords, su and sa, have been transiting exactly conjunct each other in Aqu., starving each other, and ketu has crept up right on top of my natal AK moon.
@mitryendra80 that's going to make for a tough ketu house, that, however, can push you into the rahu house.
I now know that Ra/Ke are forming a Kemadruma yoga (and not a bandhana) from the pada in my D1.
I suppose this would affect how challenging Ra/Ke are? Does this KY alter the rules of the Ra-Ke game for the native, or just make it more fated?
Would a Kemadruma formed by Ke/Ra improve after Ra/Ke maturity, or simply get worse? (Especially if the yoga is formed from the Pada, which is supposed to be what we "become", which might refer to who we are later in life after Ra/Ke maturity?)
BTW: I've been listening to the Jaimini audio, and the descriptions of this yoga are definitely accurate for me, especially considering I'm also a 3 of spades! (And in the D9, Ra/Ke positions are additionally causing me to be a "rover" and have no peace and security in personal/professional life.) I just need to resort to witchcraft.
@mitryendra80 all t hings caused by rahu and ketu can get better after they mature.
Kemadruma Yoga is when you have equal number of malefics with no benefics in 2nd and 8th from Lagna, Pada and Swamsha
Do we count backwards with even signs in these?
@ernst If a Kemadruma Yoga is forming from the Svamsha, but it's also forming a Parivartana Yoga at the same time, does this make the results of the Kemadruma more intense?
In my chart, I have Saturn in Leo in 2nd from my Svamsha and Sun in Aquarius 8th from it. There are no cusps with these planets.
@kam it does not make the kemadruma better or worse, its the condition of the kemadruma planet that determines that. The PV yoga simply adds another dimension to the person's ive, If its a mahayoga, they have a theme of somethign nice, if a dainya yoga, they have a theme of something difficult.