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sharonsegall
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hi there,

please clarify a point that i might didn't understand correctly through watching the building blocks videos.

in the video on planetary aspect, toward the end of the video you mention conjunction in few words, where you say that mercury are good friend with venus when they aspecting each other but not when they are in the same sign close to each other. in the example they were few degrees apart in the same sign.

but in the video on vargas where you calculate points of a planet in a certain varga taking into account its dignity  in the sign it sits in the varga, you continue with adding the points contributed by its position in the  rashi and this score based on the rashi  is added (being negative or positive) to the total of this planet score created by the varga dew to its dignity.  that was all clear. the part that i am confused about is that when you came to venus and mercury interaction ,you said that if they conjunct in the rashi you add 60 points to the planet in the varga which means helping it ,but in the previous video as i mentioned in the beginning you said when they conjuct it hearts the functionality of that planet and thus affect its function in the varga. can you please clarify my confession i have about it please. 

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A mercury venus conjunction is a great thing, its one of the great conjunctions. in respect to temp planetary friendship, planets in the same sign are always enemies, but that's just for determining dignity, its always a great conjunction. 

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@ernst

so what you are saying is, if we see the conjunction in the rashi it affects the dignity of those planets in the rashi but when we carry the value of the score to the vargas of this conjunction  its is a positive value to the planets in the vargas although in the rashi it affect negatively on their dignity?

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@sharonsegall Are you referring to the Lajjitaadi Avasthas when you mention points? I think that what Ernst was saying is that, in terms of the Lajjitaadi Avasthas, a Venus/Mercury conjunction is always great because they delight each other's (giving points to each other's as a result), it's a mutually beneficial relationship so to speak. Helps their Lajjitaadi Avasthas.

But, when it comes to determining the dignity of a planet, being conjunct makes them temporary enemies and therefore taking the dignity down a bit, down to neutral for example. 

I believe Ernst now looks at the Lajjitaadi Avasthas in the Rasi only, not so much in the vargas (to be confirmed).

When it comes to determining the dignities in the vargas, the temporary friendships determined in the Rasi are carried over into each varga. So, if Venus and Mercury are temporary enemies in the rasi (due to being conjunct), they are temporary enemies in all the vargas and this needs to be taken into account to determine the "final" dignity (natural + temporary friendships). Not sure this was what you were asking though. 

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@mona

i actually realized i watched the video i derived my question, simultaneously while i was going through the basics  building blocks  and it was a video he gave on youtube about analyzing Venus in the d7 and d9 .

dont ask me why i jumped before my nose, but i did,.

i am probably confusing subjects right now i guess,  like the lajjitaadi avashna which i cant even pronounce at that point let alone knowing if he was referring to that when he was talking about the points.  although in second thought, when he talked about the score of the  conjunction and aspects that was derived from the rashi and was carried as a score to venus value in the d9 and d7, 60 points was the highest score,  like when you have the table showing values of aspects, that the highest value of 100% is 60  (  for the conjunction  seen in the rashi) so i am not sure it was the lajjtadi avashna, and from the few words i  gathered  about the lajjitaadi avashna in by the way mention , the score go from 0 to 300 or more, i think. so i am confused to say the least.

but thank you for trying 😀 

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@sharonsegall no worries. If I may, I would recommend you focus on the building blocks (and maybe the Graha sutras) before looking into techniques. I did jump ahead too soon myself and I always end up going back to the basics/foundations (I know it's hard, this website is like being a kid in a candy store 🤣 ). Then, it depends on what type of astrology you want to practice. For example, the Lajjitaadi Avasthas is very psychological oriented. It's totally my thing but it may not be yours;)

 

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@mona

i am drawn to that direction naturally but i know so little at that stage to make any statements but thank you so much again

xxx

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hi ernst, regarding a planet dignity in the vargas, how does one judge an exalted moon or debilitated moon in the vargas ,as well as mercury exaltation and debilitation in the vargas, with regards to their degrees in the vargas?  do we look at the degrees of those planets as indicated by the varga?  for example ,if moon in any varga, is placed in taurus  do we determine his exaltation by his degrees in the varga? meaning, exa  when 0-3 degrees not exalted 3-30 (if 3-30 will his dignity in the varga defined by temporary friendship of venus to moon in the rasi plus natural friendship of venus to moon(which is neutral) in the varga?)

also determining moolatricona and own rasi in the vargas and the rasi as part of calculating dignity of a planet .

1. in the rasi chart: if a planet has limiting degrees to his moolatricona and own rasi definition and he falls out of those degrees  how do you determine his dignity ?(for example ,  mercury is:

moolatricona in 15 – 20 Virgo

and own rasi in 20 – 30 Virgo, and Gemini 

how do you determine mercury dignity if he is in 0-10 degrees of virgo or alternatively if he is  0-10 Gemini?

       

2. in the vargas: do yo conceder the degrees of the planet as it is in the varga, with regards to the same question as mentioned in part 1. above?

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YEs, use the degrees in vargas. Merc is own sign in all of gemini. He is exalted in first half of gemini, so upto 15

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