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Kala not counting Lajjitaadi Avasthas points for Mars svastha in Scorpio

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Ernst Wilhelm
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Its never going to be proud like. But by staying to itself, it mitigates the problems of the bad avasthas. 


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Its never going to be proud like. But by staying to itself, it mitigates the problems of the bad avasthas. 

I'd imagine this to be in the realm of fate, right? In the real of freedom (I understand at the highest level both fate and freedom are illusions, but at any other level where fate is considered to be real, freedom should be considered as real too?):

Our spiritual mandate is to drop all the bad lajjitadivasthas on a planet, and adopt all the good lajjitadivasthas on the planet (including proud), is that correct? If we successfully carry out this on the planet (by rigorous practice, due to available freedom) then theoretically any planet could be scaled up to proud avastha?

A successful scaling up of all planets to proud avastha by rigorous practice is what amounts to spiritual liberation?

Coming back to svastha lajjitadiavastha, I recall in some videos describing svastha avastha you likened it to proud avastha, except it makes a person withdraw from other people to their own detriment? Am I wrong in this understanding?

Please help clarify. Thanks.


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Proud is proud because it gives the person something to really feel good about with regards to themselves. Its a very different feeling, and no, we can't scale upto that. We can scale upto delighted. We can't just decide to have a planet act proud. We can start to act and think like a planet is delighted, so that is what we have to do. 


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@ernst 

Thanks, so that leads to the simple conclusion: spiritual liberation = healing all the bad lajjitadivasthas (in most cases, this will be scaling upto pure delight on all the planets).  Makes sense.

proud is just an extra support given by fate to help along the way


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