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Veronica
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Hello,

1. is it always best to have malefic planets in Bala or Mrita and benefics in Yuva or Kumara?

2. Also it's confusing that in their respective deeptadi avasthas a planet may be not good or have a negative value in drigbala while at the same time being highest planet in shadbala - how is this interpreted? Let's say venus or moon causing so much stress but at the same time having all the strenght?

 

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John.Pilskog
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Hello Veronica,

I believe it may be helpful if I suggest that all the grahas have an important role to play as conscious forces, karakas and bhava lords to name a few. Of course we have grahas which are termed "cruel" or "gentle". This relates to one aspect of their nature. It is worthwhile in my opinion to consider that "gentle" grahas can not only cause problems, they can cause the demise of the native in specific conditions. So, there are no "bad" grahas, there are only grahas doing what they are doing. The many techniques are attempting to illuminate what that may be more exactly. We need a synthesis of techniques to determine our hypothesis of what the graha may be capable of relative to its own potential, the chart and its divisions, and the other grahas, etc,. Another factor is how we feel about "the thing" which may be different from what is actually happening or even what the graha is attempting to do ...

The aggregate shadbala of any graha shows its potential. Nothing more. Drigbala shows aspectual influences to a graha. This may be positive or negative. You can weigh them. A "gentle" graha can absolutely produce stress relative to its potential. These concepts are not in conflict because we are looking at different and specific things. We need to weigh and synthesize to come to our understanding of what all that may "mean" for any chart and probable destiny of the native. 

John

 

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Veronica
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@john-pilskog thank you John, when a cruel graha is in a bad avastha can cause death or other calamities  (also a gentle one as you mention)  but I'm still halfway the deeptadi avasthas videos and confused, and I may be even doing the wrong questions but what can harm more ? a cruel planet in good avastha or in bad avastha? does it depend on the total shadbala ? or the power of its effects depends more on it's dignity? therefore a death or slumbering planet even when in bad avastha can't do anything?

 

 

 

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John.Pilskog
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Hi Veronica, I would politely ask you to reread my response above. While doing so, please note that I did not write that a cruel or gentle graha in a bad avastha can cause death or other calamities. While it "could" have that effect, I wrote only that any graha can or may be capable of same. This is an important distinction because we are simply using techniques like avasthas, etc in an attempt to determine what, when and how any graha is likely to do what it is trying to do. I can't answer your questions of this vs that in a general way because it is likely to be inaccurate without evaluating the entire chart in question. For example, a graha is in poor dignity, but one or more friends are saving its bhavas. Can happen. Of course a graha in poor dignity is more likely to struggle or fail, but it may shine in other vargas or be helped by friends. There are so many possible cases, we can't oversimplify.  Remember that all the techniques are only illuminating a specific thing or things. We can't really mash them all together. Relative to specific technics it is more that this means that and this means that and this means that, therefore, we may have some idea of what is going on. It may be more to the point to focus on one thing at a time. Let me know what is confusing you regarding Deeptadi Avasthas and I can probably give a more focused reply.   

John

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Veronica
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@john-pilskog thanks, first I'll keep listening a little longer  and try to think on some examples to clarift my questions

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