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Marianela
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Hello... 

Although I haven't done a research I know there some cases where the conjunction of Rahu-Moon can give to the person a high level of mediumnity capacity. If so, it's interesting how it is connected to the Child Mind. And more often to women. 

Does it also Rahu in Cancer?
I know a person with it. She has also Mars, Venus and Neptune in Scorpio. Moon in Sag. Jupiter in Aries. 

 

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In my experience, that holds true more or less. Not all Moon/Rahu are mediums of course, but many I've worked with have this combo. You can also research it on Astro.com. Just put 'mediums' in the search field.

 

Also had a close friend with Rahu/Moon and she was not a medium per se, but she could 'see dead people' and hear them too. 

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Thanks, I'm gonna check out that list.

I'm interested in the Swedish artist Hilma Af Klint. She started to do abstract paintings even before Kandinsky. But those paintings were kept hidden, until 20 years after her death.

She has Moon-Rahu in Sag.

Sun-Mer in Scorpio. Mars in Aries.

Jup, Venus, Sat in Libra.

At 17 she started doing spiritualism.

At 33, after studying Arts, she found the group "the Five" with 4 women artists friends, meeting every Friday to do that kind of explorations. I interpret those meetings with peers as part of her Ketu in Gemini. 

From 44-53 she painted a serie called "The paintings for the temple" 193 abstract paintings, done 100% channeling her guides. She used to prepare herself very much before the sessions, meditating, fasting... That sort. Her colleagues were a bit afraid of this long project, fearing too much contact with the spirits. But she had strong Mars, and also her Moon surprisingly is not afflicting any planet. 

She had had a shorter encounter with Rudolf Steiner in her 40's, but then it was rather disappointing for her. At 63 she gave up painting, and until 72 she was often in Switzerland studying Anthroposophy with R. Steiner. I see in this period her eventual step from Ketu in Gemini to Rahu in Sag.

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@marianela I share your admiration for Hilma af Klint, She´s absolutely amazing. No doubt that she is expresses a great truth about something beyond.

Do you care about the Cards of Truth? She was a 9 of Diamond, the most psychic and in a way spiritually connected card.

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@staffan Nice to know about the cards. I haven't study them. No time...

Hilma's use of colors  and shapes is totally symbolic, didactic even, so that looking at her paintings is a playful ride to make associations and understand.
And so much related to other mystic traditions. For instance, white and red are like Ida and Pingala, and the combination is pink, which is also for her the color of healing, of unity...
In the inca tradition, there is also white and red. White as the vertical light decending from heavens. And red as the vertical line ascending from the center of the Earth. When they meet, all the colors are created. In Hilma's work there is a lot of that. And the creation of miriads of beings as the creation of all the colors (rainbow).
For the Earth she uses red or black.
She uses blue and yellow for the dance of balance between masculine and femenine, spirit and matter, etc... "u" spirit and "w" matter... (Swedish words)
Spirals and the shells of snail are the way to develop. To go from the inside to the outside and from the outside to the inside. Completed the cycle of 2 spirals the heart shape is created.

And much more, expanding, developing and even a few paintings with astrological symbols.

Very beautiful ideas all along her work, no hesitations, no mess... Just direct clear crystal.
First was the channeling, then a lof of study to understand the messages.

I attach one painting I like very much.
See above, the white dove, whose wings are cut off, the blood falling is probably enabling the Earth to connect upwards.

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@marianela Very interesting, thank you! And I hadn´t seen that painting. It seems to explain something, I  believe. Well, you are partly analyzing that; the box; the concrete, number 4, Mercury?

Yeah, there are so many things to say about Hilma af Klint and one aspect is the cultural context. Like she was taken out of her context by the spiritis, gave her testimony painting all those master pieces and was then put back into normal life, and it all went on while her art waited for it´s moment in a time capsule...

Sometimes women apply their feminist thoughts on this and say that she didn´t get any recognition in her life-time, but I believe that even if there is a possibility that she would not get it, she never even tried, or what do you think? I think she was told by spirits that this was for the future.

For our time, I guess. I would love to see her paintings life, although I´m Swedish I haven´t done that.

The Swedish sounds thing I didn´t get though. U would stand for what and W for what? U is pronounced in q unique way in Swedish and W is not in use.

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Hilma was in fact a successful and respected painter of landscapes, but her guides told her to keep her secret paintings hidden for 20 years after her death. So she ordered in her testament. Eventually it took longer. Anyway, it was after then that her paintings have been thorny to the Art World, mostly for being a medium. But in the last years there is a little trend in this line, so she has become a boom.

They say u stands for spirit and w for matter. I thought it's the first letter in Swedish. She however insists on putting them together, so often it's written wu or uw.

In the painting I see the box as the gift given by the Heavens. The gift of consciousness. Colors with different veils of darkness. Development steps.

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@marianela Nope, none of thise letters have anything to do with the Swedish worlds for water and matter, which would be "vatten" and "materia". She must have gotten it from some - hrm - other source.

I can´t help wondering how it might have been being Hilma af Klint, knowing the huge secret that she had to keep away from the world´s eyes...

Have you seen the movie Lasse Hallström (the director of Chocolate, the Cider house roles, Gilbert Grape and many other movies) made about her? Unfortunately, I believe, with his own daughter in the role as Hilma. She´s not a professional actor and... while, I guess dad took a bad decision choosing her for the role. Any thoughts about that?

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@staffan Thanks. If I get to know about those letters I'll ask you. Matter and spirit, they say.

The movie, I haven't seen it yet. I wanna see it at some point. Although I am a bit afraid. Very often the movies even though they represent old times they keep the emotional dynamics of the time they are filmed. It becomes so boring then, like plastic toys.

I have read very little about her biography. But her work, and how it all evolved is amazing. Many artist do, do, do and stay there. Like chickens putting eggs. Because doing is the fun part, the self-expressive easy part of finding a language and play with it. It's also the routine that helps to live every day. But to bring a process to its conclusion, and from there the next project is born, and so on until eventually to finish doing art, being able to stop and pass to something else, this is really to be one with life.

I love also a lot the paintings of William Turner, but when I read a bit his biography and saw his chart I couldn't help feeling that he had painted too many paintings.

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@marianela OK, spirit neither, it´s "ande" in Swedish, same root as "andas", breath, interestingly enough. The only "U" I can think of in that context would be and "undin", which is a water spirit, right? But I guess that she´s gotten it from some completely outworldish source.

I think you nail it when you speak about the view; that I think is what happened. From the little of it that I have seen. But I should see it before having an opinion, obviously.

Haha, I have Neptune closely aspecting many of may planets (and Pluto as well...) so how am I not going to love Turner? As a painter that is; his life I know nothing about; was he not a good person?

One of my personal favourites is Magritte. I stumbled into a big Magritteexposition once, and learned that their is a huge difference between seeing an artist´s work in real life compared to a print. And a bigger difference for some artists than others, and Magritte is one of them I believe. In print it looks as if he´s just intellectual and expresses himself through concepts and symbols, but as a painter his much more than that. There is gentleness and warmth, for example.

There are many others of course... Hard to deny Van Goghs brilliance, or Cezannes... But when I visited Paris 10-15 years ago it struck me how we tend to put those Western masters on a piedestal that is far too high; not that they aren´t brilliant, but they are not EVERYTHING. And getting the brilliant idea o actually o b s e r v i n g before painting, and not paint out of a cultural convention... Isn´t it shameful that we even had to come up with that in the first place?

Well, Hilma clearly didn´t bother about all that fuzz...

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I can confirm this from nearby experience.

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In the Rahu/Ketu course Ernst talks about the difficulty of Rahu/Moon conjunctions but also says it can give "strong attunement" That can also be found in the Yogas section of Kala under Deliniations - Modern if the chart has a Rahu Moon conjunction or a rasi aspect.

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@quasar259 Thanks,
I knew the Moon is sensitive to Rahu, also in the rasi before and after hers, but I didn't know about the rasi aspect.

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I actually have Rahu Moon in my chart ruled by Sa and its def caused me trouble so far haha. It's taken me until Sa maturation year now to even realize how deluding it can be wrt Moon indications. I've had to deal with emotions I didn't even know existed within me for the past year and a half or so!

Getting to the topic at hand, I am kind of hesitant to wander into these things I do not know about. However, have noticed sometimes I've had a good meditation outdoors, I've seen a bunch of small dash like particles of light roaming around. I do not know, and I didn't actually engage with it, just admired and move on.

When I had a deeper meditation, I sometimes saw cylindrical spiral like particles with a narrow structure roaming around. I felt like they are thoughts that are in motion, but again I don't quite know. I guess it's the time to pray for peace and move on. 

 

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@jam1 In what house is your Mo/Ra conjunction?

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@staffan 2nd, 

 

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@jam1 Thanks for sharing.
Is your Moon afflicted?
Or afflicting other planets?
I think this is important to avoid the dangers Rahu-Moon can bring.
Otherwise, a wonderful gift to learn to use.

Has it helped you to go to Rahu's sign? That is another good point of it.

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@marianela

Well, Moon isn't starved or anything except for Rahu conjunction. Mo does aspect Me to 37, and Ve to 27 points, so yes, I've experienced these starvations. 

But it also delights Mars to 60 points, Sun to 35 points and Jupiter to 30 points. So, there's enough there for me to work with. Mars in cancer, so delighted by Moon, and no other major influence on it. Mercury is delighted, retrograde and right around 90 degrees some mins between Ra and Ke 

I hit Rahu mahadasha when I was like less than 4 years, so you bet I've run to Rahu and got it back!. But as the lord of Rahu is maturing, I'm beginning to understand it's purpose more. I've not yet been able to fully embrace Rahu sign (it's in aquarius).

I am learning but I've seen that going into aquarius has eventually worked for me. As I write, life is forcing me to connect with my community to move forward in life, but it doesn't feel natural at all, so I'm going at it slowly again. Listening to goddess durgi hymn with sincerity in heart has been helping.

Yeah, there's a gift to it no doubt. It takes very little to push me in either direction - something I'm working on and mindful of. So, I have to consciously make a choice to go in the positive direction and let it take off from there and have fun! 🙂

 

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