Wouldn’t predictive astrology be subjective? Wouldn’t the background of the reader color what they see? If someone’s entire focus is about making money or love, wouldn’t they see the same in the chart that they are looking at? So, would it be better to have a specialisation in a particular field so people know what you are best at and come for a reading for that particular issue? That way, astrology won’t get the blame of being wrong when the imperfection lies within the reader. That way the responsibility gets shifted onto the reader because he is more in the position of power and hence needs to handle the karma, instead of shifting the blame on to the person who is already not in a good place and can’t see the bigger picture.
I agree with @mitryendra80 . Would giving cookie cutter methods not cause more problems? If the internal world expresses into the external, would it not be better to start making the shift to focus on the internal? I find Western astrology expansive and there is an element of empowerment in it. I find Vedic astrology deep and I have to dig deep within myself to understand even a tiny bit. By digging deep, I am shifting brain patterns which give deeper understandings. With the advancement of smart objects, I am already seeing the deterioration in the functionality of the brain in the world. Perhaps that’s the reasons for the sutras - to entice people to look beyond what is apparent until it becomes a habit. I would definitely look forward to a course.
I agree with @brooke . I found the best way was to ponder upon each sign, each planet, each house. It might take 4 years to begin to understand the Sun, but now one has worshipped the Sun for 4 years already and developed its qualities within oneself. There is nothing better than that.
So, does that make everything else a distraction? I see the fight between Zodiacs and the Ayanamsas like the fight between which God is better and more benevolent than the other. Within the fight between the Gods, one forgets love and compassion and acceptance. Between the fight between Zodiacs and Ayanamsas, it seems we get distracted from what is really important - to understand the planets within us and their interdependence within us to bring them into consciousness.
To me, when I see my chart in Sidereal, I'm like "that makes total sense". Then when I see it in Tropical, that makes total sense to me too.
Same here. It's like I'm the combination of both. And maybe smth else, haha.
Agree that we are so complex, which is impossible to grasp from our mostly conditioned minds. From the mind point of view we are what we want to see in the certain time of life.
In 1951 The Indian GOvt. Got together a convention of astronomers, panchanga makers, etc. to unify the Indian calendar as different cities used different calculations and so wanted their holidays on different days and so nationwide govt business could not be in sync. They decided to use lahiri ayanamsa for nakshatras. They decided that sankranti's are tropical. and wrote into law how the calendar was thus to be calculated. Most of india was fine with using lahiri ayanamsa, but they just kept calculating sankranti's sidereally ,but now all with the same ayanamsa so they celebrate sankranti's on the same day. That was good enough for the govt which was concerned with everyone going to work on the same day and not concerned about astrology at all, so this law of tropical sankranti's was never enforced.
All cultures loose some knowledge during the dark ages. The western world forgot that the world was round. India forgot about precession. But in the end, India has preserved more astronomical knowledge then all the rest of the world combined. It just makes ironic sense that they forgot about the critical precession. But better they lost that then having lost all their texts as had happened in the western world as its an easy thing to rediscover as compared to having to rediscover what was in Parashara or Jaimini texts! What people don't understand is that no culture is meant to be perfect during the dark ages, each culture looses something that it must discover from another as the ages become more aware. As we ascend through higher ages, we will have more and more a global culture because the closer we get to truth the less differentiation there is and the furthest away we are from the truth, the differences become so great the neighboring village can appear like aliens.
A fantastic reference book on the Yugas which Ernst is referring to is called "The Yugas" by Joseph Selbie & David Steinmetz.
@angela-w
It was written in 2012. Really dives very deep into a wide variety of historical references pointing to this cycle that Yukteswar revived. Makes a lot more sense with knowing that we live in a low age still (even though it is an ascending age) and astronomy/astrology is not really understood that well scientifically yet (though it is getting better).
@scott-m-19 yeh Joseph Selbie is a Yogananda disciple (as am I). I took a course with him once about the yugas. It was great.
@leela I can´t deny that I was provocative, and I have a hard time stopping myself from being that. I agree: getting into a dispute about the timing is ridiculous. A dispute about who is foolish and who is not - complete foolishness! As I read on another forum recently: Mercury is debilitated in Pisces for a reason. When it comes to higher understanding we don´t understand much, at least not the mercurian way.
Peace and understanding, and please forgive me if I was teasing you.
Mattias
How so? Avastha is a concept/technique that is not dependent on the zodiac being tropical. Ernst demonstrating it with tropical doesn't mean it is 'tied' to the tropical zodiac. and FYI, Avasthas are not Ernst's invention. Sidereal astrologers commonly not using it doesn't mean it cannot be used with it. (and this is not even true, they do use it)
@Leela
Yes, it is a concept and technique... that is more accurate using tropical zodiac. ????
I was not suggesting Ernst invented the avasthas, however, he revolutionized medical astrology by implementing the deeptadi avasthas, (among other things). He's created a method of using the deeptadi avasthas with the tropical zodiac to determine specific diseases, which continue to amaze me in their accuracy!
I am using medical astrology as an example, because bodily concerns are a clear/physical manifestation that cannot be made so subjective the way people use the rest of Astrology.
Anyway - everyone is viewing Astrology, the charts, and the individual through the lense of their own unique facet of consciousness. My comment on simplifying the chart and just comparing something like ascendants or moon signs may seem like a good idea to me, but I'm reminded why it's a poor argument to make (people interpret life differently). Best to focus on the concrete.