When reading children in the example chart, the Lagna is in Virgo and the 3rd bhava is in Sagittarius?
So, in other words, Scorpio and Taurus would be completely unconscious if they do not hold a graha because there are no cusps there.
The bhavas do not indicate consciousness but are rather omens for or triggers of concrete manifestations, to my understanding. The Grahas carry consciousness.
Again: That´s my understanding.
Staffan
This was Ernst's answer from a couple of years ago as he explained House vs House cusp:
"A planet is in a sign from the Ascendant and this helps see if that planet will manifest well or with more stress. If in 6/8/12 it will manifest with a lot more stress. If in an angle or trine it will manifest most easily. In 2/3/11 it gives a bit of stress to manifest. That is all we do with house position on a basic level. And that is all based on signs from the Ascendant. We also do many yogas in this same way
Then there is a matter of a planet impacting a house cusp. The planets are the producers, the house cusp is the concrete thing produced. For this the cusp has no impact on the planet. The planet impacts the cusp. If its in the same sign as the cusp or aspect the cusp, the planet is impacting it. That's all there is to it"
tuyet
@qwertym2 I agree, the cusps is a concept from Brihat Parashara, I believe.
Staffan
@qwertym2 In the Jaimini's focal bhava technique, I use the cusps because that's what we do when we're considering the careers. The careers are based on which cusps come into play not the signs if they don't hold a cusp. So, the cusps are what is considered for the focal points.
@tuyetv I would add to that just that we can read the house as the feeling of the person to that thing, whereas the concrete thing is shown by the cusps. For example, if a person has the fourth house without cusp harmed by cruel planets yet the 4th cusp is supported by beneficial influences then we can deduce that the person feels negatively about their mother yet the actual mother as read from the 4th cusp is doing really well. So the person's perception is different from the reality. I have found this to be a useful way to work with the difference when someone has cusps bunched up in one sign where there are signs that have no cusps.
So in the attached example, the actual child has Sun and Virgo qualities, but you read the child from Libra. And so the child is focused on career, but the child’s career itself has Venus and Leo qualities.
Libra and aspects to it tell you how easily the child will be manifested.
Did I understand that correctly?
@karinia I don´t understand you. "The child"? "Read the child from Libra?" It seems that you are using some specific technique but I don´t know which one it would be.
Staffan
@karinia When doing this technique, you use the whole signs from the 5th (for child) to see what's going on without taking into account the cusps, unless you want to get creative with it. The way I've done this is basically using the 5th to see the body of the child as the Lagna is one's own body.
@karinia In this example, you would read the child from the 5th cusp, namely Virgo having the Sun in it would suggest that the Sun is prominent in the child's makeup. The child would have solar qualities marked in his makeup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n34tIIwkwro
I find this to be helpful when i first studied astrology...
tuyet
@tuyetv what took a sec to wrap my mind around is the practice of using the same cusp locations for the resulting chart after making a cusp other than the 1st or 7th the lagna.