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AgnesBarna
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Hello Ernst and All,

1. If Venus is the Atma Karaka and it is in Taurus, so moolatrikona, how to understand passion? Does it cause less serious or less destructive passion? Or dignity does not matter in this sense?

2. Should we consider Ma-Ve conjunction, in some way as passion, even if they are not related to AK in any way?

Thanks a lot, regards,

Agnes

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Kristiana Y
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Hi Agnes,

Venus's Moolatrikona is in Libra. Venus as a planet is not pure passion only. It deals with making fulfilling long-term decisions, also capacity for devotion. Please check this video for better understanding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEkWwIPfVMk&t=2280s

Dignity always matters, the better and in more vargas the less stressful a planet will be.

Regarding Ma-Ve conjunctions - if it is Atmakaraka, it matters even more, but wherever Ma and Ve both influence a house/cusp they make it more fulfilling and passionate. So if you have it in the 6th - you will be hungry to do good with your health and ultimately that will bring you greater satisfaction.

Hope that helps :).

K

 

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Hi Kristiana,

Thanks a lot for your comments.

Yes, meanwhile I realised that Taurus is only own house for Venus.

Thank you for the link, this looks like an intereating video I will check it out.

Thank you also for your insights regarding Ma-Ve conjunctions and houses. I will think about the fullfilment, passion and hunger part.

Kind regards

Agnes

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@kristiana-y 

Hi Kristiana,

Thanks a lot for your comments.

Yes, meanwhile I realised that Taurus is only own house for Venus.

Thank you for the link, this looks like an intereating video I will check it out.

Thank you also for your insights regarding Ma-Ve conjunctions and houses. I will think about the fullfilment, passion and hunger part.

Kind regards

Agnes

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@kristiana-y 

Since I have MA & VE less than 3 degree conjunct in my 6th, I am passionate about health and wellness on a daily basis, this is all I think about and I have been a healthcare provider for almost 20 years now.

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Hi Anges,

Just adding to what Kristiana wrote above.

In the "Yogas of Character" course in video (recording) 3, Ernst talks about the Venus/Mars conjunction within the context of Mahatma Gandhi's chart.

At the time, Ernst was still using the sidereal zodiac and he analyzes the "afflicted" Malavya yoga (Venus exalted or in own sign on an angle) in Gandhi's chart. He says that Mars and Venus in aspect or conjunction can make a person very sexually passionate, but also mean that their senses "aggravate them". He describes Mars/Venus as a combination that can make you frustrated with sex because you can only go so deep. He also says that that energy can be channeled into meditation very productively, so the person's passion can have an outlet (in meditation you are supposed to be able to always go deeper).

Not sure if this still reflects Ernst's current practices. Just wanted to add it for the sake of completeness.

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Hi Angela,Thank you for the comment, I will relisten to that Yogas ofCharacter course.

I will also think about the going deep and meditation part, that is a very useful thought: turning your passion into meditation. And the fact is not to be forgotten, either, that Venus also represent devotion (spiritual deity class).

Thank you, kind regards,

Agnes

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In one of the Avashtas courses Ernst says that Venus conjunct Mars causes "excess passion". I recently gave a reading in which the native had this and she said that her flirtation and sexual energy often causes issues in her life. For instance having affairs with a boss or being evicted from a house for a landlord feeling like she was flirting with the husband. She said this before i mentioned the conjunction. 

She said she wanted to embrace her passion and be proud of it. But to me it seemed to be talking up A LOT of space in her life. Venus was exalted so she was leaning to heavily into using that planet and ignoring her other planets and working out their issues. 

But it did get me thinking... when does Mars-Venus become a "bad habit" and when is it just fine to have excess passion? Is it always an issue to have excess passion or is it sometimes ok and helpful? 

In this case it was obviously taking up so much space in her life so I determined it was more of a bad habit than helpful. I advised it might be useful to channel it into spiritual pursuits such as meditation. 

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@rhiannon I have a Mars (AK)/Venus conjunction in Libra in my 2nd house and I can say am passionate about 2nd house stuff like clothes/fashion, gourmet type of food, making a living to provide for my family, etc... I don't relate much to the excess passion leading to potential troubles because it seems that the excess passion is specifically seen when Mars is shaming Venus, not just the conjunction. So that should help see when excess is more likely to show up.

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Hi Rhiannon,

What about her other planets?

Those issues that you have described seem to me more like a combination for Moon starving Saturn. This combination typically causes issues with bonding, connecting, making people lovesick in a bad sense, so getting involved in all kinds of affairs, just to feel loved and appreciated. (See comments under your post regarding Moon-Saturn, Saturn-Rahu, trauma.)

So maybe Saturn starved by Moon sets up for the emotional attited for longing for being touched and loved, but Ma-Ve conjuction boosts tjat excess of fire...

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@rhiannon 

I would think it depends on how you spend your excess passion.  

I have Mars conjunct Venus in my 6th house (less than three degrees).  I am passionate about health & wellness and spend all my time thinking this as well and this serves me because I am a health and wellness consultant.  

As for the act of sex...this has not served me well.  

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I am trying to understand what passion means astrologically anyway....

Mars position shows our hunger for that part of life, Venus position shows fulfillment, Sun's position indicates inspiration...

Dharma raja yoga (angle-trine lord conjunction) indicates inspiration...though it is not clear to me the difference between inspiration given by Sun and the inspiration given by Dharma yogas...

However where does passion fit into all this? I am not much familiar with Jaimini, so I am not sure if Jaimini has anything specific about passion?

Regards,

Anand

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