Hi Guys,
Would you like to look at my chart?
I have endo too.
According to KS Charak book Essentials of Medical Astrology, Mars rules the endometrium, and red blood cells (which there is a build-up of in endometriosis). If Mars is afflicted one might also see a low hemoglobin from excess bleeding, which translates to low energy, as the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood is low. It may not be emotional issue at all although it could certainly have an effect on the emotions, for example causing fatigue through loss of Mars' vitality. Always rule out an issue with the endocrine system as well. I like to look at lab values, but I'm a nurse so I have a bit of an advantage in connecting the dots.
Thanks for your input 🙂 After some investigation I believe the basis of this disease is the endocrine system= Sag / Pisces + Jupiter; and also Venus. Rahu also plays a part.
The basis of it is not emotional, but the level of emotional trauma does have an effect on the level of pain you can experience from it. It can be so arbitrary, someone with huge cysts and adhesions can experience no pain and others with a simple 3cm cyst need to take morphine.
They analysed the endometrium and then the similar material that builds up in other parts of the pelvis and they've seen it's not exactly the same, so if Mars rules the endometrium, I don't think Mars is the planet to analyse first. You're right that Mars rules hemoglobin, as an example Mars is my healthiest and strongest planet and my hemoglobin has always been good, but I've always suffered from chronic anemia cause it's Venus that rules ferritin (I had ferritin values of 4 :/ now I finally get ferritin transfusions every 6 months, it's the only way I'm not dead-tired.
I've been using Bach Flowers to understand Endometriosis more, I'll write what I've seen so far in case anyone also uses them, and cause I think it helps understand the disease more.
I believe Endo is a mix of Sag & Pisces afflicted / Jupiter afflicted / Venus afflicted / + the influence of Rahu.
For Pisces Ernst gives Scleranthus, which is an inconspicuous plant that grows into "a tangled mass of knotted stems" !! if that's not a good definition of the types of adhesions endo creates I don't know what is. Endo is a molecular disease that for many women goes unnoticed, it can keep at the molecular level forever and not form big cysts, which is why they are ignored by doctors cause they "didn't find anything", but the knots are there.
If we add an afflicted Jupiter, now we have the fact that it grows without direction. Scleranthus and Wild Oat (Jupiter flower) are both for DISPERSION, but Wild Oat a is deeper dispersion than SCLE, like at a molecular level, just like endo. SCLE is also for contradictions, this disease if very contradictory.
The evolution of the disease is said to be unpredictable, here I would include Cherry Plum, which is Rahu's flower. Also in Jaimini there's a combination with Rahu that makes you not detox all the toxins from the body. Endo has as a basis of not being able to get rid of toxins, if you hold on to toxins the liver can't efficiently deal with excess oestrogen, that gets back into the blood stream.
Finally, Venus rules the ovaries and the flower for any gynaecological problems is Chicory (which is the Libra flower)
Also endo is an "inflammatory disease", inflammation at the source and as a result, Vervain is great for inflammation and it's the Sag flower.
I've tested many mixes to deal with pain management and to balance hormones so there's higher progesterone, which gets rid of oestrogen, and this mix has been the most successful by far.
It can be tailored to each person, If you're gonna tailor it to you take Red Chestnut or Gorse out first and leave the rest, the other flowers are the fundamental ones. If you have a lot of pain due to inflammation take out Red Chestnut and put in Vervain.
MIX FOR ENDOMETRIOSIS:
STAR OF BETHLEHEM: for Saturn and to help eliminate waste
WILD OAT: deep dispersion, is also a catalyst like Cherry Plum
SCLERANTHUS: helps all the functions in the body to happen at the right order and time
CHICORY: Great for any hormonal imbalance, it helps in "letting go"
CHERRY PLUM: is a catalyst that accelerates the flow of energy in the body. Also for the lack of control of cells.
RED CHESTNUT: is for adhesions, and becoming more detached (this is also done by Chicory, so Red chestnut is just to emphasis the letting go)
GORSE: this flower is good to use at first in case the body has shut down and doesn't want to improve with the other flowers you're providing, basically a body that's in defeat mode.
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Maybe in the future I'll have time to study other people's charts and do thorough research, I could have around 100 charts for this, but I can't do it this year. Anyway, hope this helps.
S.
I am only speaking from personal experience and not from analyzing the chart you are speaking of. In my D-30 all planets are either in GF, OH or MT, except for Mars which is debilitated in the 6th. I had endometrial cancer, followed by hysterectomy. The uterus is a muscle in that it has the ability to contract. Mars rules muscles and is certainly applicable in my case. Mars may or may not be a contributing factor in a diagnosis of endometriosis but it is worth considering. Yes, I agree that the endocrine system is important as hormones might be affected and perhaps might even be the root cause. It is often the case that many different factors contribute to a serious health problem.
I am not familiar with Bach Flower remedies so I wouldn't want to comment on that. I am however an Herbalist as well as an RN (certificate in Western herbalism and diploma in Asian Herbalism). I use Western herbs and mainly Ayurvedic holistic principles. I am alive because of Western allopathic traditional medicine and receiving a good diagnosis from a D.O. early. I have a Vata Pitta constitution and so it is interesting that both contributed to my cancer diagnosis.
I use Ernst's settings in Kala (tropical zodiac, sidereal Nakshatras) and have gained much insight and knowledge from his work. I rejected sidereal zodiac after much angst and going back and forth between settings. It is humbling for certain. I intuitively trust Ernst after watching many videos, it feels right on an intellectual level as well. I definitely have my own opinions on medical astrology, the use of supplements/remedies and their role in health care.
@pammcnally that's interesting.
The D30 is not about the health of the body, it shows fatalities or "bad omens" basically things that can really hurt you. You're lucky you have high dignity planets, that means not many things can hurt you, but of course MA db is not a good sign. For the body we look at D1, which is "deha" the literal body. and if you have accurate birth time, then also body factors in D60.
The flower Red Chestnut I mentioned above is given when the sign of Cancer is afflicted, like in your case Mars is afflicting Cancer. This causes problems with adhesions, it's interesting your cancer developed in the endometrium, which adheres to the uterus, instead of developing uterine sarcoma.
Endo doesn't form in the uterus, it's found in ovaries and/or outside the uterus, when it grows into the uterine muscle it's called Adenomyosis, they're different conditions.
Of course, no one planet rules one organ, it's a combination of things, for uterus I would check libra (for pelvic triangle), jupiter signs for the manifestations of the reproductive system, mercury for the walls of the uterus and mars for the muscle function.
@silvia You may be on the verge of practicing medicine by your comments. You are also rejecting ideas that may be pertinent. It is not beneficial to anyone to be so black and white and definitive. I did not have sarcoma, I had endometrial adenocarcinoma so please do not think you can weigh in on my chart or my treatment plan which I haven't revealed. Diagnostic Medicine is the only way to confirm what disease you are dealing with. As an astrologer, you can suggest the client may want to see a qualified physician but you should not direct your client's care or diagnose disease, let alone suggest treatment when you are not qualified to do so. Clearly D-30 afflicted planets in dusthanas may indicate health problems so I disagree with your statement. D-1 is of course relevant but why look at D-30 in medical astrology if it is only for "bad omens" and not health issues? Sometimes they go hand in hand. You have to have an open mind and consider many possibilities, to be fair.
@pammcnally I’m not sure which part of what I wrote pissed you off so much that it hindered your ability to comprehend. I wrote you didn’t develop sarcoma; English is my second language, so I might not express myself clearly at all times, but I think the word “instead” is pretty straightforward.
Secondly, in what part of what I wrote did I weigh in on your treatment plan?
Thirdly, don’t assume I offer medical astrology services to my clients, because I don’t.
I’ve studied endometriosis for 3 years, since my stage 4 diagnosis and surgery.
Of course D30 is used in medical astrology, it’s for aristhtas “fatalities or weaknesses” that reduce your well-being, but that can be financial debt, not only physical disease.
This thread has the intention to be informative for people with endometriosis, so I’ll stop here since this is way beyond the point of this thread.
OK Silvia I will chalk the misunderstandings up to English being your second language. My reply is also informative for those on the forum. In the US, we who work with alternative medicine modalities have to be very careful what we say publicly when it comes to suggesting treatments. Physicians prescribe, astrologers suggest and direct questions to a qualified professional when it corresponds to any type of medical issue. It is a legal issue as well as a professional one. Studying your disease does not make you an expert or qualified to suggest a plan of treatment for endometriosis. Don't you think it would be wise to suggest a person suffering from endometriosis consult a physician? I am not questioning your learning capability, in fact I admire that you are well informed.
Here is an example that you wrote that I feel is inappropriate. "I've tested many mixes to deal with pain management and to balance hormones so there's higher progesterone, which gets rid of oestrogen, and this mix has been the most successful by far". You don't know another person's medical history and what pharmaceuticals they take. There could be interactions, contraindications and so on. Talking about mixes to regulate hormones is medical advice, plain and simple, which in the US can be construed as practicing medicine without a license. I appreciate though that you are wanting to help others and don't doubt this is where your heart is, but you have just given a very specific compound formula here for a medical ailment.
"MIX FOR ENDOMETRIOSIS:
STAR OF BETHLEHEM: for Saturn and to help eliminate waste
WILD OAT: deep dispersion, is also a catalyst like Cherry Plum
SCLERANTHUS: helps all the functions in the body to happen at the right order and time
CHICORY: Great for any hormonal imbalance, it helps in "letting go"
CHERRY PLUM: is a catalyst that accelerates the flow of energy in the body. Also for the lack of control of cells.
RED CHESTNUT: is for adhesions, and becoming more detached (this is also done by Chicory, so Red chestnut is just to emphasis the letting go)
GORSE: this flower is good to use at first in case the body has shut down and doesn't want to improve with the other flowers you're providing, basically a body that's in defeat mode."
I know of a young herbalist who didn't want to see a physician for abdominal pain and was treating herself with supplements. By the time she went to the ER it was too late and she died of sepsis. It was 100% preventable but she felt she knew more than she actually did. Perhaps flower remedies are harmless, I'm not well informed there but better to be safe than sorry.
Time to chill.... Be well.