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Hi Ernst and y'all,

Is the upcoming penumbral lunar eclipse on Nov. 29/30 supposed to be auspicious or inauspicious or in-between? It is saros 116 isn't it? Some upheaval I think.

I always have a rough week or two around the lunar eclipse (AK is moon) and this particular one is really targeting sensitive stuff in my chart (and also Bidens' to some degree). I don't need a personal nor political prediction. I am just curious about the general effect of this eclipse and its saros cycle.

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S.

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Hi,

I don't know about the lunar eclipse but Ernst made a YouTube video about 2020 the solar eclipses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB_9-5VH70g&t=807s

It's the 4 South Eclipse (Dec 14, 2020), minute 39ish on video 

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@mona I did see that video, and the Dec. solar eclipse is not good news, esp. for relationships and finances, including my own. But effects of solar eclipse are less personal and more manageble to me, even if they are on trigger spots in my chart. In fact I often gain some sort of wisdom with the issues targeted by solar eclipses.

Lunar ones tend to bring on more intense personal crisis but are more short lived than solar, thankfully, but I never seem to learn anything new, which is a shame since moon is my AK, lol.

The Dec. solar one happens about the exact moment of Biden's exact Venus return, within the degree I think. His Rahu is the exact 10th from that Ve. (also where Trumps lagna is, according to those who calculate him as Leo). Rahu 10th from Ve. probably means he has not developed the ability to show affection in a balanced way in public or in the outer world(too much and/or too little, and with the wrong timing), and this eclipse should bring his past behavior, esp. around females, to the fore. And that Ve is closely conj. his natal lord of his natal Rahu (Sun) in his chart. The eclipse itself will be happening in his lagna rashi.

This time in Biden's life, where he may be king(Leo) is a complete test of his Rahu development. And Trump, his challenger, was/is one of the vessels for this, and I think this is a hint that Trump may indeed be a Leo lagna but I could be wrong. So it will be a test if Biden can channel diplomacy and healing (Ve) and inspired leadership (Su) into his office in the public domain. It looks as though he has been trying to enter the Rahu jungle for decades.

No matter who is president these next few years there is no escaping the country dealing with the effects of Pluto in Leo, the sign of leadership and control of the kingdom, as both Trump and Biden are from the Pluto in Leo generation. With Trump, it is there with Mars and perhaps lagna. With Biden it is there with Rahu and Chiron. This "Pluto with the King" effect has been, and will be, combined with its real time transit through Cap and Aqu, the other signs dealing with public governance and working for country's population. So it is way beyond the issue of which party is in control. If it is Biden, then maybe dealing with the coronavirus will be a test of his Chiron, the wounded healer, conjunct Rahu.

But do we really know what Chiron represents? Wasn't it randomly named by astronomers(not astrologers) who fairly recently discovered it. As opposed to hundreds/thousands of years of seers tracking the actual astrological effects of it if it were seen by the naked eye, and then naming it based on the quality of those effects? Interesting to think about.

But yeah I am still curious about this lunar eclipse.

Thanks,

S.

 

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I don't know anything about Chiron and I've only superficially studied the outer planets at this point but Biden is a King of Heart in the Cards of Truth system, symbol of a father figure, an older caring and supportive man, and he's on a 10 of diamonds path. Kings of Heart are also the card of tough love and Kings are about sacrifices so it'll be interesting to see how this translates. And looking at his Varshaphala, Venus rules his 7th and 12th house and is in the 12th house. There are multiple ways to interpret this as usual, but the "sacrifice" theme is seen here as well. Good luck finding info about the lunar eclipse! Mona

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@mona Thanks for the Cards and Varshaphala angles.

I have heard talk that his wife may not move in the White House with him, and would continue with her local profession instead while he is president. This would mean sacrificing time with his wife (ve and 7th) in order to govern. This means ending of a cherished relationship and having to grudgingly endure new working relationships in a hostile environment at odds with him, at work as well as from the public.

Or having to compromise on decisions, goals, and principles that are of personal value to him in order to deal with the realities of his governing environment. Though this happens to a degree with most presidents, it will especially be the case for him.

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@mitryendra80 I didn't know about his wife's potential decision. And, yes, If I am not mistaken, Venus (and 7th house) also represents the public appeal so that can also affect his relationship with the public. I didn't look in depth at the Tajika yogas but his Raja Saham seems to be concretizing towards Oct 2021 so my interpretation is that it's going to be challenging/sacrificing first year for him indeed.

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Its a tough one, supposed to be a relationship breaking and at best radically changing relationships to those you are hit by it. The effects are already happening. One person I know who has been in a dead end relationship for 3 years has it on her 7th cups and just dumped the guy and decided to go with another guy she knew, who now is not sure about her even though he chased her for over a year. 

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@ernst is that in general for every one? What makes it have this kind of effect compared to other eclipses?

 happening to me, cutting ties w someone I believed part of my family for years, not easy but seems necesary

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@ernst Bummer. But thanks for the warning.

It has yet to hit me, though I don't have relationships so how would I know.

Siri has stopped speaking to my mother since a recent phone app. update.

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Just now got news that a friend's 15-year marriage is ending.

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it depends on what exactly it hits, but whatever it hits, it can sever or hugely change the relationship with people indicated by that thing. 

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