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Manisha
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Hi Ernst,

Could you clarify again how we will define the planets? What would we say Sun denotes? The Ego (Aham)? The Moon is the Mind (Manas)? Is that correct?

What words would we use best for the other planets, both in Sanskrit and in English?

Thanks.

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anand
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Hi Manisha,

I am using following key words for each planet currently, based on my understanding of what I have heard from Ernst so far:

SUN          --  Inspiration (Creative Vision, Enlightenment from subjective angle)

MOON       --  Need 

MARS        --  Logical Vision

MERCURY  --  Management

JUPITER    --  Inner Joy (Enlightenment from objective angle)

VENUS      --  Outer Fulfillment (Worldly fulfillment)

SATURN     -- Lack

RAHU        -- False

KETU         -- Uptight

 

Regards,

Anand

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Manisha
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@anand

Thank you, Anand. I wonder if we can go deeper than that. I guess what I am trying to hone into is the way it gets manifested within us - the essence of what the planets represent and how one’s interaction affects the others. Maybe I need to see it as different layers and find the appropriate names within the different layers.

Can we see Mars as Will and Mercury as Skill? What would Jupiter and Venus be then?

(P.S. - I enjoyed your earlier post. It showed depth of thought and something that we are all struggling to understand and clarify. I hope you post it again.)

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anand
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@manisha

Thank you for the clarification, I think I get your question now.

It is interesting to consider if we can map the context of one planet to that of another planet. Like "will" for Mars, can it necessarily map to "skill" for Mercury? Maybe in a chart, Mars could be denoting "will" but Mercury could be denoting "friends," "peers", or "communication"?

However, my thinking is that Mars is an engineer, and should represent Logical Vision no matter what he is denoting in the chart.

  1. As a soldier or general, he should represent the logical vision of winning the battle.
  2. As a mother, Mars represents the logical vision the mother has for her child, where as when the moon is the mother, she is concerned with the needs of the child.

Likewise, Mercury is a manager no matter what he is specifically denoting. Jupiter is objectified enlightenment no matter what he is manifesting etc,

This is just my thinking, and I guess I am very inexperienced in astrology. I do look forward for my understanding to get fine tuned in this forum.

btw, which is the earlier post you referred to?

Regards,

Anand

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Manisha
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@anand

Yes, I agree with your explanation. But there will be a baseline that everything flows out from. Hence I think there must be different layers to the map, kind of like a multidimensional model instead of a one dimensional. 

Words are so tricky. If I don't know what something means, how do I get the meaning across? So I guess I am also trying to understand the language and see how it fits into what I inherently know. 

I am new to the world of astrology too. It feels like all the pieces of the puzzle are lying around on the ground, and I am trying to build a structure by figuring out which piece goes where. Sometimes I need to go off into the wilderness to look for additional pieces that have gone walk-about. LOL. 

(P. S. - The deleted one) 

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anand
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@manisha

 

For the deleted one, may be you are referring to this?

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Hi Ernst,

 

From what I understand, the window of god's free will is through resolving the bad Lajjitadi Avasthas.

Rahu-Ketu indicate the absolutely fated parts of life.

Other than resolving the bad Lajjitadi Avasthas, is there any other window to implement free will?

How does Rahu-Ketu become the most important problem to solve if it is absolutely fated, how to solve it if there is  no free will with Rahu-Ketu? Or does resolving bad Lajjitadi Avastha somehow lead us into the Rahu jungle?

Finally, for a planet in certain Lajjitadi Avastha, how does the Avastha interpretation change when it is with Rahu or Ketu? Does this reduce or take away the free will opportunity offered by this avastha?

 

Regards,

Anand

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I did not delete it, but I edited a line, and it went in to "awaiting moderation".

 

Regards,

Anand

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Mirela
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Hi Manisha,

Ernst's book - Graha Sutras - has amazing answers in regards to these, and a long list of Sanskrit and English names for the planets, and their meanings. I think the book comes in electronic version as well, but not entirely sure...There is a wealth of information there if you ever feel like exploring.

 

Mirela

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Manisha
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@mirela

Thank you, sweet Mirela! I listened to the audio course last year around this time (gosh, where does time fly?), but always forget the book.

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