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1. My Rahu is in the 8th and Ketu in the 2nd, and Rahu in Taurus (Bharani) Rasi with Ketu in Scorpio (Swati). Reversed.  

2. In addition, I have Mercury, Saturn, and the Moon all in the 2nd house but in the Scorpio sign. Reversed house/sign. 

3. How should I interpret when the houses and signs occupied by Rahu/Ketu are reversed with Grahas in the 2nd house reversed with the Signs?

I'd like to know your understanding of these placements

 

Thank you

 

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Mona
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I assume you are a Libra Lagna, it always happens (my son is Libra lagna with Ketu in 11th in Leo 5th sign and Rahu in the 5th in Aquarius 11th sign). 

So, a couple of things I understand with this:

1. For Libra people, the Rahu/Ketu axis becomes more of a seesaw movement through life, a little bit of this, a little bit of that. It also makes Libra lagna people less easy to pin down (I find). The Scales is about harmonization and the reconciliation of opposites. This translates into the Rahu/Ketu axis (it's the only sign where this happens). This pushes the issue of developing inner harmony, the part of ourselves that is not bothered, offended, not shocked by anything.

2. The houses Rahu/Ketu are the areas of life, the terrains where Rahu/Ketu will be experienced and the signs are the part that needs to be healed. So with Rahu in the 8th, your playground is develop trust in the fact that, whatever life throws at you, you have the inner resources to deal with it. Those are the experiences that will show up in your life (maybe such as attracting people that betray you, as a general example). What needs to be healed in Rahu in Taurus and this is quite vast but an example would be to develop a sense of self-worth, a sense of personal values rather than seeking it through others. And, in doing do, attracting the people who share the same values. So, through Rahu in 8th house experiences, you learn to develop Taurus qualities. 

3. Same with the other planets, when I look at the planets, the house is the area of life where a planet/sign combo is going to play out. From a very practical standpoint, the 2nd house is about money, finance management. Signs and houses have similarities but they are not the exact same thing. Also, the signs will tell you how and why a planet operate a certain way, the houses will tell you where this is all happening.

Hope that helps.

Mona

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@mona Thank you so much for the detailed insight, it was super helpful. I was wondering if the houses/signs being reversed was more specific for me, but from seems it is more for a Libra ascendant phenomenon. 

Re 2: Makes a lot of sense. I have indeed faced a situation where my trust was violated. Does that mean my life lesson is that I should be very vigilant in trusting anyone? 

Separately, Rahu would have been in Taurus for almost 18 months for folks born around my time, would it be the case that all those individuals will face some form of betrayal in their life. 

Re 3: Is there a specific lesson I might have to learn with Saturn, Ketu, Moon, and Mercury being in Scorpio in the 2nd house? 

Sorry for the questions  - trying to understand where the universe might be guiding me 🙂

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@arjstere The Rahu/Ketu axis is definitely "generational" (18 months on the same axis), that's when the houses, conjunctions, states of the rulers of Rahu/Ketu add some "flavor" and specificity to the analysis. So within that axis, no one is/experiences it exactly the same even though the underlying them is identical. 

When it comes to trusting others and the 2/8 axis, Ernst mentions that one cannot trust others but one can always trust the self in dealing with whatever comes our way. So, I don't think it's about becoming hyper-vigilant but about trusting the process more. No one's perfect and will eventually screw up and hurt us. I would recommend the "Extremes of Rahu and Ketu" course if you haven't done so already. Lots of great insights on the house dynamics. The Lajjitaadi Avasthas course is also a good one to understand the state of the planets that rule Rahu/Ketu. 

I have a stellium in my 2nd house as well (Sun/Ve/Ma/Uranus/Pluto) but in Libra. Usually, that means that the stellium house becomes a major theme in a person's life (independently of which planets are there even). 2nd house stuff is to develop self-esteem, my own set of values (independently from pleasing others, Libra stuff), and not equating self-worth with my possessions, material security with inner security. Usually, this comes from an early childhood environment. In Scorpio and with Saturn too, there could be deep-seated fears/intensity around money (including other people's money), material security. Scorpio is about living intensely, like every minute was your last because of a hyper-awareness of one's death and it's really a feeling through life type of sign (if one were given 3 months to live, one would not "think" about how they want to spend that time, they would "feel" it) and a strong investigator of those feelings. The trick is not to get stuck there. So, there's not a straight answer to your question but some ideas/themes for you to investigate. Scorpio is a fascinating sign (the more I study astrology, the more I fall in love with those so-called "difficult" signs and houses), it's really about aligning feelings with actions without getting bogged down by the feeling abyss and fear. For you, this could mean taking more risks in "trusting" others, including around money, by developing more self-worth so that your actions are more aligned with your feelings. Just some thoughts, you can only know 😉

PS: I also have Mercury in Scorpio 😉 and I've always been interested in occult sciences (when I was young, this translated into binge-watching Hitchcock's movies), communicating around the unknown and/or secrets (being a potential pitfall).

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@mona I was trying to find the course you recommended "Extremes of Rahu and Ketu", but unable to locate it. Could you point me to it, please?

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@arjstere Ha! This is a sneaky one to find 😉 At the very end of the Healing of Rahu and Ketu page, there's a link to Healing of Rahu and Ketu 2. That's where it is. Here's the direct link to it: Healing Rahu & Ketu 2 – Astrology-Videos.com (astrology-videos.com)

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@mona Awesome 🙂 Thank you!

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@arjstere Well, thank YOU back, this made me realize I had missed Healing of Rahu and Ketu 3 link at the end of page 2! It feels like a treasure hunt website ;p

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@mona Awesome 🙂 Thank you!

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@mona I just finished the video - it was really insightful. Ernst means that Rahu gives the results of Saturn. My Saturn is in the 2nd (Scorpio) house. Does that change anything with Rahu being in the 8th?

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Sounds like a very interesting, quite karmatic chart/life,  with all those planets in the same axis and even the same Rasi.

I just dated a girl with her Ketu in the 2nd house and could feel how I reached her protecting glass wall; not letting things in that would force her to question her life and to start to give up control. A frustrating experience, since I couldn´t use my astrological knowledge to tell her; not in a direct way. E s p e c i a l l y not with her having Rahu in the 8th; a person who´s already sceptic about astrology; her trust could really be hurt if I would start telling her about her Rahu and Ketu and trust issues...

With that said: having the bhavas the other way round as you do should help you to find a balance while working this out; to me it seems that you are on both ends; it´s a constant coming and going. Rather than a big wave carrying you into our Rahu area, as it is for most of us, it seems more like many small waves little by little eroding your nodal theme... If that metaphor says anything to you.

Also remember what Ernst teaches us about the Ketu/Saturn conjunction as a good foundation for spiritual growth. It´s so unpleasant staying in your comfort zone that you´ll rather risk your life (that´s how it feels!) in the Rahu house. So to me it seems that you are set-up for a deep and productive Rahu/Ketu experience in this lifetime.

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I haven´t thought about the fact that the Libra ascendent alwas has the nodes working in this balanced way; but how fascinating that it completely relates to the balance metaphor that the Scales stands for! 

 

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@meyes Yes, it's quite fascinating, Librans don't want to be that easily defined  😝 

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@meyes @mona

Thank you for articulating your thoughts and understanding of this axis and signs. I do feel intensely and emotions run deep, but as you are suggesting, sometimes it is better to not be stuck there and just live 🙂 Though lately, I have started trusting in nature a lot more and pretty much accepted that whatever happens is for the betterment, and I try not to get 'stuck in it for too long of a time. 

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@arjstere   Saturn there seems like a nature connection, but for that maybe we should look at other factors in you chart, such as your Sun and your AK

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@meyes I see. How do you mean by nature connection - sounds like there might be a deeper meaning to it. 

My AK is Venus in the 12th with Sun in the 1st. 

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